Islam slave trade

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it's not secular rule that brought prosperity to western countries; but the massive world wars they made and the massive souls they butchered and the massive amounts of gold they stole from the world.

I don't understand how wars that destroy wealth can cause prosperity.
Western prosperity is consequence of capitalism. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore don't have any natural resources, they copied western economic system and became rich.

The west doesn't have what it takes to build a stand-alone empire in the middle of Ice; Rome was rich because it occupied most of the world.

It's called "natural resources". Without the oil of the Middle East; there will be no strong Dollar. Without a war economy; the western world will fall in minutes.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Rome was rich because it occupied most of the world.

Manifestly not true. At no time did Rome occupy 'most' of the world.

Boru

[WinterHold]

This is because you're an idiot.

Boru

Lets start World War 3 and nuke planet so everyone will become billionaire.
Are you sure you know how economy works?

Iraq War profiteers

One of the top profiteers from the Iraq War was oil field services corporation, Halliburton. Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war".[40] Many individuals have asserted that there were profit motives for the Bush-Cheney administration to invade Iraq in 2003. Dick Cheney served as Halliburton's CEO from 1995 until 2000. Cheney claimed he had cut ties with the corporation although, according to a CNN report, "Cheney was still receiving about $150,000 a year in deferred payments."[41] Cheney vowed to not engage in a conflict of interest. However, the Congressional Research Office discovered Cheney held 433 Halliburton stock options while serving as Vice President of the United States.[42] 2016 Presidential Candidate, Rand Paul referenced Cheney's interview with the American Enterprise Institute in which Cheney said invading Iraq "would be a disaster, it would be vastly expensive, it would be civil war, we'd have no exit strategy...it would be a bad idea". Rand continues by concluding "that's why the first Bush didn't go into Baghdad. Dick Cheney then goes to work for Halliburton. Makes hundreds of millions of dollars- their CEO. Next thing you know, he's back in government, it's a good idea to go into Iraq."[43][44] Another prominent critic is Huffington Post co-founder, Arianna Huffington. Huffington said, "We have the poster child of Bush-Cheney crony capitalism, Halliburton, involved in this. They, after all, were responsible for cementing the well."[45]

You're supposed to shit your pants when you see the numbers. You should also imagine the non-reported or the "classified" documents.

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Rome was rich because it occupied most of the world.

Manifestly not true. At no time did Rome occupy 'most' of the world.

Boru

Let's say "most of the discovered world at that time".

[Dmitry1983]

I don't understand how wars that destroy wealth can cause prosperity.
Western prosperity is consequence of capitalism. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore don't have any natural resources, they copied western economic system and became rich.

It's called "natural resources". Without the oil of the Middle East; there will be no strong Dollar. Without a war economy; the western world will fall in minutes.

Natural resources have nothing to do with prosperity. Africa is rich in natural resources but its population is extremely poor. Japan doesn't have any natural resources.
Dollar as reserve currency adds very little to US consumption.
US military spending is 3% of GDP. It's not a war economy.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Lets start World War 3 and nuke planet so everyone will become billionaire.
Are you sure you know how economy works?

Iraq War profiteers

One of the top profiteers from the Iraq War was oil field services corporation, Halliburton. Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war".[40] Many individuals have asserted that there were profit motives for the Bush-Cheney administration to invade Iraq in 2003. Dick Cheney served as Halliburton's CEO from 1995 until 2000. Cheney claimed he had cut ties with the corporation although, according to a CNN report, "Cheney was still receiving about $150,000 a year in deferred payments."[41] Cheney vowed to not engage in a conflict of interest. However, the Congressional Research Office discovered Cheney held 433 Halliburton stock options while serving as Vice President of the United States.[42] 2016 Presidential Candidate, Rand Paul referenced Cheney's interview with the American Enterprise Institute in which Cheney said invading Iraq "would be a disaster, it would be vastly expensive, it would be civil war, we'd have no exit strategy...it would be a bad idea". Rand continues by concluding "that's why the first Bush didn't go into Baghdad. Dick Cheney then goes to work for Halliburton. Makes hundreds of millions of dollars- their CEO. Next thing you know, he's back in government, it's a good idea to go into Iraq."[43][44] Another prominent critic is Huffington Post co-founder, Arianna Huffington. Huffington said, "We have the poster child of Bush-Cheney crony capitalism, Halliburton, involved in this. They, after all, were responsible for cementing the well."[45]

You're supposed to shit your pants when you see the numbers. You should also imagine the non-reported or the "classified" documents.

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Manifestly not true. At no time did Rome occupy 'most' of the world.

Boru

Let's say "most of the discovered world at that time".

Let's say, 'The Mediterranean basin, most of Europe, and parts of Western Asia.'

If you want to make your case, you'd do better to focus on the British Empire.

Boru

[WinterHold]

I don't understand how wars that destroy wealth can cause prosperity.
Western prosperity is consequence of capitalism. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore don't have any natural resources, they copied western economic system and became rich.

Simple. Commerce. Raw materials are not the only way to produce wealth.

And remember, money is our way of keeping score.

Money is everybody's way to "keep score" !

You shouldn't let it become an obsession or you'll end up like "MBS" and "Sisi".

[Dmitry1983]

One of the top profiteers from the Iraq War was oil field services corporation, Halliburton. Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war".[40]

That's 0.2% of US GDP.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

One of the top profiteers from the Iraq War was oil field services corporation, Halliburton. Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war".[40]

That's 0.2% of US GDP.

What's the percentage at which theft is an excusable offense?

Boru

[WinterHold]

One of the top profiteers from the Iraq War was oil field services corporation, Halliburton. Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war".[40]

That's 0.2% of US GDP.

I said this sentence in my post:

AtlasS33 said:

You're supposed to shit your pants when you see the numbers. You should also imagine the non-reported or the "classified" documents.

[Dmitry1983]

That's 0.2% of US GDP.

What's the percentage at which theft is an excusable offense?

Boru

But you don't mind stealing from rich people.
Also we are talking about causes of American prosperity which have nothing to do with US foreign policy.

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That's 0.2% of US GDP.

I said this sentence in my post:

AtlasS33 said:

You're supposed to shit your pants when you see the numbers. You should also imagine the non-reported or the "classified" documents.

Likely less than 1% of GDP. If oil didn't exist in Middle East, America wouldn't be much poorer.