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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 3:59 pm
(December 10, 2019 at 12:55 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (December 10, 2019 at 12:30 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Imperfections are explained away in the Bible.
Really and how exactly? Is it because Eve ate from the wrong tree because that is no explanation.
When you use magic and a magic book as your explanation, you can explain ANYTHING.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 4:11 pm
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(December 10, 2019 at 12:30 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Imperfections are explained away in the Bible.
How does a perfect being create imperfection?
*Aaaa-HEM*. I'm still waiting.”
Can a perfect being create anything he wants? Can he create any type of scenario to let it play out? Or must He follow your notions?
That is not an answer. By creating imperfection, a being is admitting to imperfection within themselves.
(December 10, 2019 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I’ve deciphered the code in DNA.
It says “made in China”.
Was disappointed.
I got "made in Myanmar". Remember the Chinese are outsourcing these days.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 7:42 pm
Quote:Can a perfect being create anything he wants? Can he create any type of scenario to let it play out? Or must He follow your notions?
Creating imperfection far better proves an imperfect creator
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm
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I'm confused by commenters suggesting that creating imperfections proves the creator is imperfect. It's like saying I've baked a donut, therefore I'm a donut.
A creator of anything is logically free to create whatever it wants, for whatever reason it wants. French gardeners for example, used to create gardens with perfect symmetries and measurements; meanwhile English gardeners embraced imperfection in their gardens. Creating a perfect garden or knowing how to give it imperfections, are arguably both equally skilful and intelligent endeavors.
That being said, although I do agree scripture does explain away imperfections, it tends to do so by suggesting everything was created perfectly in the beginning, and then there was a falling out of man and nature which brought death and imperfection into creation. It does not seem to imply God created major imperfections as part of his original creative project.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 9:12 pm
(December 10, 2019 at 4:11 pm)Nomad Wrote: (December 10, 2019 at 12:30 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Imperfections are explained away in the Bible.
How does a perfect being create imperfection?
*Aaaa-HEM*. I'm still waiting.”
Can a perfect being create anything he wants? Can he create any type of scenario to let it play out? Or must He follow your notions?
That is not an answer. By creating imperfection, a being is admitting to imperfection within themselves.
(December 10, 2019 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I’ve deciphered the code in DNA.
It says “made in China”.
Was disappointed.
I got "made in Myanmar". Remember the Chinese are outsourcing these days.
What next? Made in the USA?
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 10:08 pm
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(December 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I'm confused by commenters suggesting that creating imperfections proves the creator is imperfect. It's like saying I've baked a donut, therefore I'm a donut.
A creator of anything is logically free to create whatever it wants, for whatever reason it wants. French gardeners for example, used to create gardens with perfect symmetries and measurements; meanwhile English gardeners embraced imperfection in their gardens. Creating a perfect garden or knowing how to give it imperfections, are arguably both equally skilful and intelligent endeavors.
That being said, although I do agree scripture does explain away imperfections, it tends to do so by suggesting everything was created perfectly in the beginning, and then there was a falling out of man and nature which brought death and imperfection into creation. It does not seem to imply God created major imperfections as part of his original creative project.
No no no, to make a good analogy about a baker you would have to have a perfect baker making a flawed doughnut which a perfect baker would not do.
God made people and then was unhappy about what he created ergo he did not mean to create them that way meaning he cannot be perfect.
Fuck, now I just want a doughnut!
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 10:16 pm
I thought we were talking genetics, not superstitious beliefs about fictional falls. There was no fall, and in the broader genetic view...there are no imperfections to "explain away"...whatever that's supposed to mean.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 10:31 pm
It means that those scientifically illiterate troglodytes of biblical times interpret genetics far more competently than any modern-day agent of the dark lord.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 11:05 pm
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Quote:I'm confused by commenters suggesting that creating imperfections proves the creator is imperfect. It's like saying I've baked a donut, therefore I'm a donut.
Not even close
(December 10, 2019 at 10:08 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: (December 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I'm confused by commenters suggesting that creating imperfections proves the creator is imperfect. It's like saying I've baked a donut, therefore I'm a donut.
A creator of anything is logically free to create whatever it wants, for whatever reason it wants. French gardeners for example, used to create gardens with perfect symmetries and measurements; meanwhile English gardeners embraced imperfection in their gardens. Creating a perfect garden or knowing how to give it imperfections, are arguably both equally skilful and intelligent endeavors.
That being said, although I do agree scripture does explain away imperfections, it tends to do so by suggesting everything was created perfectly in the beginning, and then there was a falling out of man and nature which brought death and imperfection into creation. It does not seem to imply God created major imperfections as part of his original creative project.
No no no, to make a good analogy about a baker you would have to have a perfect baker making a flawed doughnut which a perfect baker would not do.
God made people and then was unhappy about what he created ergo he did not mean to create them that way meaning he cannot be perfect.
Fuck, now I just want a doughnut! This
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 10, 2019 at 11:43 pm
(December 10, 2019 at 12:30 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Imperfections are explained away in the Bible.
How does a perfect being create imperfection?
*Aaaa-HEM*. I'm still waiting.”
Can a perfect being create anything he wants? Can he create any type of scenario to let it play out? Or must He follow your notions?
I'd like to hear what you believe the bible explains away.
Why does this being have to follow your notions YJ?
And why would a perfect being, that knows nothing else but perfection, create imperfection on purpose?
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