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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 4:15 pm
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Your personal relief and justice are not interchangeable. You've only managed to establish that you're a sadist who finds comfort in the suffering of others. Congratulations.
Somebody should do a study on that, or somethin...see if there's a correlation between people who find relief in that idea as you do, and belief in magic books.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 4:22 pm
(February 18, 2020 at 4:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your personal relief and justice are not interchangeable. You've only managed to establish that you're a sadist who finds comfort in the suffering of others. Congratulations.
Somebody should do a study on that, or somethin...see if there's a correlation between people who find relief in that idea as you do, and belief in magic books.
Ironically you're the one who was a member of a sadist terrorist organization called the U.S army, and you even served their sadist campaigns.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 4:27 pm
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Not a problem for me, and not a problem for you..either, if torture can be justified. All that..jus-ti-fied.
The only difference between us in this regard is that I don't take any particular comfort in the belief that others are being tortured....and I don't see the point of elevating any flaws of mine to the status of "justified" acts with divine warrant.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 5:58 pm
(February 18, 2020 at 4:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Not a problem for me, and not a problem for you..either, if torture can be justified. All that..jus-ti-fied.
The only difference between us in this regard is that I don't take any particular comfort in the belief that others are being tortured....and I don't see the point of elevating any flaws of mine to the status of "justified" acts with divine warrant.
What your institution did in the Middle East should make you hesitate before using the word "sadist" to describe others.
While I believe in hell in the afterlife, you believe -and even contributed- to inflicting hell on earth. But the economic power of your silver tower made you cheat the term being inflicted on you.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 6:22 pm
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Why should anything I did make me hesitate, if torture is justifiable? I only noted what you yourself chose to share. That you draw comfort from the notion of other people suffering.
I'd like to believe that this isn't really true, I certainly don't - but fuck me if you're going to insist, right?
You either see how you've cut your own legs off, or you don't. I don't think that anyone here is in the mood to hear some islamist nut who thinks torture is justifiable, and even gets a little wood thinking about it, give a lecture on ethics. That's fucking absurd.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm
"it's similar to what serial killers make their victims live before they die"
And serial killers are horrible people. That's what you're comparing your god to?
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm
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(February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: "it's similar to what serial killers make their victims live before they die"
And serial killers are horrible people. That's what you're comparing your god to?
God is not human.
Lions tear people and maul them.
Snakes poison children.
The sun burns people alive. But we seem to find the excuse and pardon these non-human entities in doing so.
Why can't we do the same with God?
Torturing humans is very normal when the one inflicting the torture is not even human.
Our problem is with humans torturing humans.
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 8:14 pm
Quote:God is not human.
So
Quote:Lions tear people and maul them.
Lions are simple eating or defending themselves
Quote:Snakes poison children.
Snakes merely defending itself
Quote:The sun burns people alive.
The sun not a thinking entity
Quote:Torturing humans is very normal when the one inflicting the torture is not even human.
Accept it's not torture
Quote:Our problem is with humans torturing humans.
Or god doing it
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 9:27 pm
(February 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: "it's similar to what serial killers make their victims live before they die"
And serial killers are horrible people. That's what you're comparing your god to?
God is not human.
Lions tear people and maul them.
Snakes poison children.
The sun burns people alive. But we seem to find the excuse and pardon these non-human entities in doing so.
Why can't we do the same with God?
Torturing humans is very normal when the one inflicting the torture is not even human.
Our problem is with humans torturing humans.
So he's not a person. He's an animal? A mindless force of nature? what is he? If he's not a person, then why care about what he says? Aside from trying to avoid him, or make him go away, if he's so harmful to us that torture is just a normal thing that he does?
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RE: Hell is justified.
February 18, 2020 at 11:08 pm
(February 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: "it's similar to what serial killers make their victims live before they die"
And serial killers are horrible people. That's what you're comparing your god to?
God is not human.
Lions tear people and maul them.
Snakes poison children.
The sun burns people alive. But we seem to find the excuse and pardon these non-human entities in doing so.
Why can't we do the same with God?
Torturing humans is very normal when the one inflicting the torture is not even human.
Our problem is with humans torturing humans.
We can’t do the same with God because God has the option to NOT torture humans, but chooses to do so. Lions, snakes and the sun are acting in ways they can’t control.
I suppose you could try to make the case that God is unable to not torture people, but that’s kind of problematic.
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