About BLM

[GrandizerII]

Responding to the video:

People sure are triggered by the "racist" word. It's like people have a hard time acknowledging that maybe there's a side to their nature that's not exactly favorable, that maybe we are part of the problem and need to work on ourselves as well in order for the world to be better and better.

[Rev. Rye]

Here's a video about Prager U which actually responds to, among other things, the fundamental disconnect between what left-leaning people mean when they say "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic" or "Transphobic" &c. and what right-leaning people hear when they're called those words. The former may mean "You're saying something that's helping perpetuate injustice for a particular group," but the latter will hear something like "you're a big, evil, shithead" and be so engrossed by the perceived personal insult that they miss the larger point. How does he reach this conclusion? Because the Prager U spokesman who hosted the video being responded to outright said this is what he thinks when he heard words like "intolerant."

[The Architect Of Fate]

Here's a video about Prager U which actually responds to, among other things, the fundamental disconnect between what left-leaning people mean when they say "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic" or "Transphobic" &c. and what right-leaning people hear when they're called those words. The former may mean "You're saying something that's helping perpetuate injustice for a particular group," but the latter will hear something like "you're a big, evil, shithead" and be so engrossed by the perceived personal insult that they miss the larger point. How does he reach this conclusion? Because the Prager U spokesman who hosted the video being responded to outright said this.

Pretty much they can't tell the difference between a personnel attack and a criticism of the negative effects of their words .

[Little lunch]

Sure..whatever.
As long as we do all agree that Nick Cannon and anyone who thinks like him is a racist piece of shit.

[Rev. Rye]

Dude just said he thinks black people are the true children of Israel and ranted about Jewish bloodlines that control the world. That he’s a racist piece of shit should probably go without saying.

[ignoramus]

Guys, is there a connection between racist people and education? I'm also thinking these types also easily swallow other conspiracies, hence education.

[GrandizerII]

Here's a video about Prager U which actually responds to, among other things, the fundamental disconnect between what left-leaning people mean when they say "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic" or "Transphobic" &c. and what right-leaning people hear when they're called those words. The former may mean "You're saying something that's helping perpetuate injustice for a particular group," but the latter will hear something like "you're a big, evil, shithead" and be so engrossed by the perceived personal insult that they miss the larger point.

Exactly this. When people react this way, they make it about themselves and avoid having to acknowledge the issue that matters. I was like this some years ago, so it's not that I can't relate.

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Guys, is there a connection between racist people and education? I'm also thinking these types also easily swallow other conspiracies, hence education.

I can imagine education playing some role, but obviously that wouldn't be the full picture. And again, I must stress it's not a "them others" problem, it's an "us".

[Huggy Bear]

About BLM

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities.

It seems to me that some members of this forum are against having allies, even though the mission statement of the movement is all inclusive. Allies, after all, should not be turned away or dismissed in any way. Refusing an ally is merely the selfishness of pride clouding reason, after all.

Those so called "allies" for the most part, are there to co-opt and draw the spotlight to their own agenda.

To be clear, they chose to celebrate juneteenth  by putting a blm fist on a transgender flag... what does slaves being freed have to do with LBGT? Besides a juneteenth flag exists, why not use that?


I don't have any idea why this video is referring to the Transgender flag as the BLM flag, at this point BLM is nothing more than an LBGT organization.

[arewethereyet]

About BLM


It seems to me that some members of this forum are against having allies, even though the mission statement of the movement is all inclusive. Allies, after all, should not be turned away or dismissed in any way. Refusing an ally is merely the selfishness of pride clouding reason, after all.

Those so called "allies" for the most part, are there to co-opt and draw the spotlight to their own agenda.

To be clear, they chose to celebrate juneteenth  by putting a blm fist on a transgender flag... what does slaves being freed have to do with LBGT? Besides a juneteenth flag exists, why not use that?


I don't have any idea why this video is referring to the Transgender flag as the BLM flag, at this point BLM is nothing more than an LBGT organization.

I am glad you weighed in on this.  I have been under the impression that athene is not all that thrilled with the BLM movement and now it appears that you also don't consider them allies.  That's a side many of us need to hear and take in.  

With all the grousing and carrying on over adopting a BLM logo on the forum header and snarky remarks about those of us who didn't jump right on that bandwagon, it's good to hear how this movement really plays to black members of the forum.  I freely admit my ignorance in having knowledge of the movement and just wasn't on board with running that flag up the pole to see who salutes.

A lot of people here would like to be of help when it comes to the racial divide in this country and others but I don't think any of us really wants to start by doing something that isn't going to help and may, in fact, harm.

[Duty]

There's a George Floyd memorial graffiti artwork gone up in my town, and that got me thinking today about the death of (young, innocent, white) Tony Timpa through his being crushed to death by police and his pleading that he couldn't breathe, like Floyd, while the cops joked and laughed as they slew him. There are zero grafs memorialising his killing, let alone a global protest movement. Perhaps I'm a coward...but, well, I can do this on an anonymous internet forum, surely. In the name of equality as well as a stand against police brutality:

White Lives Matter!