That Gay Thread

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Vatican breaks silence

The Vatican says Pope Francis' comments on gay civil unions were taken out of context in a documentary that spliced together parts of an old interview, but still confirmed Francis' belief that gay couples should enjoy legal protections.

The Vatican secretariat of state issued guidance to ambassadors to explain the uproar that Francis' comments created following the Oct. 21 premiere of the film “Francesco,” at the Rome Film Festival. The Vatican nuncio to Mexico, Archbishop Franco Coppola, posted the unsigned guidance on his Facebook page Sunday.

In it, the Vatican confirmed that Francis was referring to his position in 2010 when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires and strongly opposed moves to allow same-sex marriage. Instead, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio favored extending legal protections to gay couples under what is understood in Argentina as a civil union law.

While Francis was known to have taken that position privately, he had never articulated his support as pope. As a result, the comments made headlines, primarily because the Vatican’s doctrine office in 2003 issued a document prohibiting such endorsement. The document, signed by Francis' predecessor as pope, says the church’s support for gay people “cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behavior or to legal recognition of homosexual unions.”

The recent uproar gained even more attention because it turned out director Evgeny Afineevsky misled journalists by claiming Francis had made the comments to him in a new interview. A week before the premiere, when he was asked about the civil union comments, Afineevsky told The Associated Press that he had two on-camera interviews with the pope. In comments to journalists after the premiere, he claimed that the civil union footage in question came from an interview with the pope with a translator present.

It turned out, Francis' comments were taken from a May 2019 interview with Mexican broadcaster Televisa that were never broadcast. The Vatican hasn’t confirmed or denied reports by sources in Mexico that the Vatican cut the quote from the footage it provided to Televisa after the interview, which was filmed with Vatican cameras.

The guidance issued by the secretariat of state doesn’t enter into the issue of the cut quote or the fact that it came from the Televisa interview. It says only that it was from a 2019 interview and that the comments used in the documentary actually spliced together parts of two different responses in a way that removed crucial context.

“More than a year ago, during an interview, Pope Francis answered two different questions at two different times that, in the aforementioned documentary, were edited and published as a single answer without proper contextualization, which has led to confusion,” said the guidance posted by Coppola.

Seems to me their silence was used to discover a way to backtrack. Fucking stupid catholic church.

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I can't believe it hasn't been said yet. Maybe nobody has the balls. 

This thread blows!

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Religious gay dads try to shatter myths about gay parenting

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One of my brothers never gets tired of telling the story of picking up his (then) six year old son at school. On the ride home, my nephew asked him, ‘Daddy, what does “gay” mean?’

‘Why do you ask?’

‘One of the boys in class called another boy gay and it made him cry.’

Andy though for a minute and said, ‘You know how mummy and daddy sleep in the same bed?’

‘Yes.’

‘Well, “gay” is when two men or two ladies sleep in the same bed.’

‘Oh.’ *pause* ‘Can we stop for ice cream on the way home?’

Boru

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A sad day for us gays

Early exit polls culled from The New York Times show LGBT support for President Donald Trump doubled since his match-up with Hillary Clinton, when he only managed to capture 14 percent of the demographic.

The Times, querying 15,590 people at polling places, early voting sites, and via phone calls, found that 28 percent of self-identified LGBT people supported Trump, while 61 percent went for Joe Biden (Biden is currently leading in the Electoral College and popular vote tallies). Clinton managed to nab 78 percent of the LGBT vote, according to national exit polls from 2016.

While the numbers don't capture the full queer electorate — there are approximately 9 million registered LGBTQ+ voters in the U.S. — they are relatively surprising since Trump's presidency has been a disaster for the LGBTQ+ community and most Americans in general, thanks to his mishandling of COVID-19. While Trump and his surrogates, including his children, have claimed he supports LGBTQ+ rights, his actions — from banning trans people from the military to lending support to antigay cases at the Supreme Court to working to erase queers from the Census — have proven the opposite. Here's a list of many of the anti-LGBTQ+ actions Trump has taken while in office.

The question remains whether Trump's embrace of nativism and racism has been a rallying cry for white LGBTQ+ people, who are far from immune from bigotry.

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Every time I watch a show, I am going to rate the characters in hotness.

The latest show: The Mess You Leave Behind

The eye candy:
Arón Piper

The one you bring home to the parents:
Roque Ruíz

The hottest because of his absolute silence:
His name is Mijail in the show, but there's no link to the character name on the cast list.

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Would Marcel Marceau be the peak of this Mt Everest of pleasure you are constructing?

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Would Marcel Marceau be the peak of this Mt Everest of pleasure you are constructing?

Not at the peak, and only when he was younger.

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