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Life eating other life.
#41
RE: Life eating other life.
(May 14, 2021 at 4:26 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(May 14, 2021 at 4:08 am)Brian37 Wrote: Humans unfortunately DO widely think we are an "apex" species. But this current pandemic should teach us a lesson.

If we learn whenever something should teach us a lesson, this current pandemic wouldn’t have happened.     If we learn the lesson this pandemic teaches, the next pandemic that absolutely will happen also shouldn’t have happened.

It is absolutely true that life, including humans, have learned to adapt, but evolution and nature don't give a shit about how long any species adapts, ultimately all rides end. The only thing humans can do, is the same thing all other life does, seak to extend the ride as long as possible. The dinosours had a far longer run, but a meateor took them out, and ultimately, our sun will fry us in some way killing all life on this planet. 

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#42
RE: Life eating other life.
(May 14, 2021 at 4:32 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 14, 2021 at 4:26 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If we learn whenever something should teach us a lesson, this current pandemic wouldn’t have happened.     If we learn the lesson this pandemic teaches, the next pandemic that absolutely will happen also shouldn’t have happened.

It is absolutely true that life, including humans, have learned to adapt, but evolution and nature don't give a shit about how long any species adapts, ultimately all rides end. The only thing humans can do, is the same thing all other life does, seak to extend the ride as long as possible. The dinosours had a far longer run, but a meateor took them out, and ultimately, our sun will fry us in some way killing all life on this planet. 

I love a good bed time story.


1.   If a species adapts too much, it wouldn’t be one species any more.

2.   While humans are a species, dinosaurs are an big clad.   A big clad tend to last longer than a species.
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#43
RE: Life eating other life.
(May 14, 2021 at 4:08 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 9, 2021 at 11:44 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Every complex organism is a big package of exploitative opportunities for other organisms.     Even the strongest apex Marco predator is but an ambulatory meat locker for parasites and pathogens.

So there seems to be nothing more than particular squeamishness in picking out macro-predation as more distasteful than infection or any other exploitative inter-species relationship. 

We might think we, by virtue of intelligence and technology, are the ultimate apex predators,  but nature guffaws loudly at our pretenses and fabricated numerous different organisms designed to feast exclusively our species.   By all indications most of these, as species, are prospering as never before.

Humans unfortunately DO widely think we are an "apex" species. But this current pandemic should teach us a lesson.

Parasitism and disease are not predation. Good arguments can be made that humans, in most scenarios, are apex predators.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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