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#151
RE: Subsequent truths
November 24, 2011 at 9:23 pm
(November 10, 2011 at 9:22 am)chadster1976 Wrote: Yes. The bible does say that if you are raped in the city then you are to be stoned to death as an adulterer. If you are raped in a field, it isn't your fault.

Where does it state that?
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RE: Subsequent truths
November 24, 2011 at 9:25 pm
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#153
RE: Subsequent truths
November 25, 2011 at 12:19 pm
The more stupid laws seem to be in leviticus, that is one funny little read.



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#154
RE: Subsequent truths
November 25, 2011 at 7:27 pm (This post was last modified: November 25, 2011 at 7:36 pm by IATIA.)
(November 24, 2011 at 9:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 10, 2011 at 9:22 am)chadster1976 Wrote: Yes. The bible does say that if you are raped in the city then you are to be stoned to death as an adulterer. If you are raped in a field, it isn't your fault.

Where does it state that?
John 8
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

In John 8 is the only spot where stoning for adultery is mentioned. The Chad appears to be wrong.
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#155
RE: Subsequent truths
December 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm (This post was last modified: December 7, 2011 at 8:26 pm by ThomM.)
(November 10, 2011 at 9:07 am)chadster1976 Wrote: As a Christian, I am constantly amazed by how often I am told I am not a true believer BY OTHER CHRISTIANS!!!

Now, just historically, the Roman Catholic Church is probably the oldest Christian denomination there is and is the largest. It also holds scriptures in original languages and relies on the older texts to form its doctrines. You would therefore assume that it is closest to the church set up by Jesus. Right? Well not according to some. Many YEC's rely on 20th century translations of the Bible that have slightly differing translations and are annotated in such a ways as to guide away from traditional interpretation.

Where does it state in the original Greek text of Genesis that the 6 days of creation were distinct 24 hour periods? It doesn't.

Sorry - but a day is a day

IT is claimed that the bible was the inspired word of a god - which we now know to be nonsense - but lets run with that claim

IF a god did inspire the bible - and was all knowing -as claimed - and there is ONLY ONE GOD doing the inspiration as claimed -then the "day" word would have to mean the same thing throughout the bible and throughout other jewish scripture as well. WHen the bible was first written - in about 450 bce - the "day" was well known for jews - as being the time between Sundown - and the next Sundown. A claim that it would mean a period of time different from that - does not follow with ALL of the other uses for the word in the fairy tales. Sorry - YOUR inference fails logically

So - UNLESS you are attempting to say that the chirst was in the ground for a VERY LONG TIME (whatever the time you claim creation took) - your claim makes NO sense

(November 10, 2011 at 9:07 am)chadster1976 Wrote: As a Christian, I am constantly amazed by how often I am told I am not a true believer BY OTHER CHRISTIANS!!!

Now, just historically, the Roman Catholic Church is probably the oldest Christian denomination there is and is the largest. It also holds scriptures in original languages and relies on the older texts to form its doctrines. You would therefore assume that it is closest to the church set up by Jesus. Right? Well not according to some. Many YEC's rely on 20th century translations of the Bible that have slightly differing translations and are annotated in such a ways as to guide away from traditional interpretation.

Where does it state in the original Greek text of Genesis that the 6 days of creation were distinct 24 hour periods? It doesn't.

Sorry - but a day is a day

IT is claimed that the bible was the inspired word of a god - which we now know to be nonsense - but lets run with that claim

IF a god did inspire the bible - and was all knowing -as claimed - and there is ONLY ONE GOD doing the inspiration as claimed -then the "day" word would have to mean the same thing throughout the bible and throughout other jewish scripture as well. WHen the bible was first written - in about 450 bce - the "day" was well known for jews - as being the time between Sundown - and the next Sundown. A claim that it would mean a period of time different from that - does not follow with ALL of the other uses for the word in the fairy tales. Sorry - YOUR inference fails logically

So - UNLESS you are attempting to say that the chirst was in the ground for a VERY LONG TIME (whatever the time you claim creation took) - your claim makes NO sense




Where does it state in the original Greek text of Genesis that the 6 days of creation were distinct 24 hour periods?

A day is a day.

If - as claimed - the bible is actually the word of a monotheistic god who is all knowing - then IT would would have to use a consistent meaning for any particular word

Since the word "day" is used all over the bible - it cannot be claimed to mean all sorts of different things. For example- if you claim that creation took a time period other than days - that time period would apply to the christ in the ground as well.
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RE: Subsequent truths
December 7, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Interesting thought, Thom.
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RE: Subsequent truths
December 7, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Somewhat fixed now. To avoid problems in the future, please be mindful of quote tags.
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