[Serious] A Literal Bible. Answering questions

[brewer]

There seems to be a determination to miss the point, so that not even agreement can be had, as people repeat back each other's meaning in different phrasing, determined to disagree.

Green pants flying cheese street won't consolidate.

[arewethereyet]

There is no slander here.

Boru

Correction; there is no argument here, you called my post drivel and refused to back your claim with anything. If you make a statement without evidence or logic then I will have no problem dismissing it without evidence or logic.

You're a big fish Boru, but how deep is the water?

Not so deep that the staff can't handle it.  

Change my mind.

[Brian37]

There seems to be a determination to miss the point, so that not even agreement can be had, as people repeat back each other's meaning in different phrasing, determined to disagree.

People "disagree" that Biden won the election. The hardcore nuts will believe that until the day they die. But Biden did win and some things are not up for debate. 

In science agreement is fostered through testing and falsification, control groups, and replication and peer review. The same cannot be said of religion.

[Ahriman]

Organized Religion has never been used as a means of manipulation or control. Some cult groups have used religion to control people, but that's its own thing. Every person (who is not in a cult) has the freedom to decide what they want to believe, when presented with certain information. Choosing to follow a religion, even while not being forced into a cult, is a deep choice that many people have made to their betterment.

Please discuss your views with your psychiatrist/psychologist. Your disorder(s) are negatively impacting your view(s) of the world.

A catholic priest might like it if you shake your backside, they have lots of money. Wear lipstick!

Don't threaten me with a good time.......

[brewer]

Please discuss your views with your psychiatrist/psychologist. Your disorder(s) are negatively impacting your view(s) of the world.

A catholic priest might like it if you shake your backside, they have lots of money. Wear lipstick!

Don't threaten me with a good time.......

Thanks for the validation.

[Green Diogenes]

I guess that means you'll need to work on your delivery, then.  As good a place as any.

Aye, figuring out how to break past the dichotomy and hit the core of the issue. It's difficult to break through multiple entrenched dogmas all at once, and I don't have any practice with Atheists so far lol
I'm not particularly interested in talking to Atheists per se, not because I'm not, but because I had 20 years experience being an atheist, and I already know where the 'veil' of the issue is, and can argue there myself. It generally comes down to an issue where two people look at the same piece of data and one man says he can see God, and another says he cannot.

Back to the issue in this thread though; the interpretation style I am using is Biblical, and can be defended extremely robustly in that context, as well as smashing apart the culturally accepted reading. Of course that doesn't mean anything to an atheist, unless possibly as method of engaging people who engage in the "If it's not in the Bible it's not real" line of thinking. It is a tool through that blockade. 

Individual examples and the arguments around the events they describe are something that comes in someone's own time, but the general spirit of empathy applies from the start. Where did this person come from, and when? What did he understand, and how would he describe the world around him, especially when it comes to things he does not really understand? 


(BTW is it just me or is the post new reply page really laggy?)

[Jehanne]

There seems to be a determination to miss the point, so that not even agreement can be had, as people repeat back each other's meaning in different phrasing, determined to disagree.

People "disagree" that Biden won the election. The hardcore nuts will believe that until the day they die. But Biden did win and some things are not up for debate. 

In science agreement is fostered through testing and falsification, control groups, and replication and peer review. The same cannot be said of religion.

Let's assume that Biden, for the sake of argument, did not win the election. Play Devil's Advocate -- what's the point??

[arewethereyet]

Please discuss your views with your psychiatrist/psychologist. Your disorder(s) are negatively impacting your view(s) of the world.

A catholic priest might like it if you shake your backside, they have lots of money. Wear lipstick!

Don't threaten me with a good time.......

You're are probably past the age a priest would be interested in.

[Angrboda]

Shame this is a serious thread. There's a lot of behavior begging for commentary.

[Green Diogenes]

I had hoped that the thread wouldn't resemble a Youtube comments section if I put that tag on lol