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[Irreligious Atheist]

“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it, and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly, to aim at the good with all your heart, to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge, and all of that, and to face things courageously and to tell the truth, to speak the truth and to act it out: that’s what it means to believe,” he said. “That’s what it means. It doesn’t mean to state it. It means to act it out. And unless you act it out, you should be very careful about claiming it.”

“And so I’ve never been comfortable saying anything other than, I try to act as if God exists, because God only knows what you’d be if you truly believed,” he noted. “That’s the central idea in Christianity, that if you were capable of believing it would be a transfiguring event, a truly transfiguring event. And I know people experience that to one degree or another, but we have no idea what the limit of that is, and we have no idea what the possibility is within each person if they lived a life that was maximally courageous and maximally truthful. … God only knows what you’d be if you believed.”

“So while I try to act like I believe, I never claim that I manage it,” concluded Peterson.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-jor...yNEALw_wcB

-Quick question, are you a christian?
-I suppose the most straightforward answer is yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8

-Your belief is christian?
-Mhm, yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8

-So, it has nothing to do with divinity or the supernatural?
-No, I didn't say that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6622&v=q...e=youtu.be

-and the crown jewel...jordan peterson, in "is the resurrection historical"

I do believe there are places where the mythological and the literal touch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDd2hXZPzb4

None of that comes within a thousand miles of convincing me that he's literally a Christian, as in a monotheist that literally believes in a creator god, and so on and so forth. A cultural Christian? Absolutely, as am I since I was born in the West and brought up by Christian parents.

You just engaged in quote mining, deceptively. I clicked on one of your links, and JP when asked if he was Christian responded, "I suppose the most straight forward answer to that is yes, ALTHOUGH..." Thanks for leaving out the although part. JP then goes on to say, "There are truths other than the literal". Thanks for leaving that part out as well. Is he a LITERAL believer? JP then goes on to say that he can not answer the question of whether Jesus rose from the dead. Again, thanks for leaving that quote out.

How about instead of nitpicking my post and trying to get a zinger in by deceptively quote mining, you give me credit for not defending JP like you probably initially thought I was going to when you saw that I had responded to that post about JP. Jimmy Dore is full on grifting now too, and he has lost a ton of respect from me. Tulsi Gabbard has gone full on grifter mode and is basically a shill for the repubs now. Elon Musk lost a lot of credibility with me when he pulled that publicity stunt of announcing he was republican and attributing that to sexual harassment allegations when he already knew that was coming, because what he did is the move of a BS artist. Jesse Lee Peterson was recently exposed as a predator, and in my view, I don't see any signs of deception in the accusers and I think it's most likely legit. I'm not quite as brainwashed as you think I am and I am capable of discernment. There are many Jordan Peterson fans out there that will defend him no matter what. You take this truth, and then you spin that around to a false reality where no one who watches JP is capable of discernment. The first part being true does not mean that the other part then follows. Some are capable of discernment. Some are not, and are just fanboys. As we can see in youtube comments, some people in society really do think it's ok for cops to shoot someone dead just because that person was a drug user. That disgusting base of people absolutely does exist in society. But you take it a step too far when you then attribute that view to anyone ever that brings up the drugs, like OLB for instance. Just because some people that bring up the drugs have horrible thoughts, you can't then extrapolate that and say that everyone who brings up the drugs shares those same horrific thoughts. That's not fair to people.

Anyways, whether JP is literally a Christian or not does not really matter. The point is that he shares much of the ideology of Evangelicals and Catholics, regardless of what his personal views are on supernaturalism.

[The Grand Nudger]

I know, but there are alot of things people will say plainly and out loud multiple times that you will neverthless argue from here to eternity are unclear, inconclusive, or Not That™...so.... Is he a literal believer? Well..I did just link to you a direct answer to that exact question.

Jordy P is a christian, he's made that explicitly clear multiple times. It's not even the worst thing about him (frankly, I really like his takes on christianity).

[Irreligious Atheist]

I know, but there are alot of things people will say plainly and out loud multiple times that you will neverthless argue from here to eternity are unclear, inconclusive, or Not That™...so....  Is he a literal believer?  Well..I did just link to you a direct answer to that exact question.  

Jordy P is a christian, he's made that explicitly clear multiple times.  It's not even the worst thing about him (frankly, I really like his takes on christianity).

Justin Trudeau just said every Canadian is a Muslim. Guess that settles it, eh? Muslim PM confirmed... or nah. Your quotes only mean so much. Context matters.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and you can find all the context you like in the links provided. Jordan Peterson is a christian. A moralizing authoritarian christian. It may be a grift, but that's not really a problem for these nuts anymore. Their grifts and their beliefs have become interchangeable. They may represent themselves as something that they're not, but it's still something they wish they were..as he goes to some length explaining, in the very first example. Most of these guys screeds end up reading like confessions, when you think about it. "Yeah I'm full of shit, but if you pay attention to me and send me money I'll show you how to be less full of shit than I am!"

[The Architect Of Fate]

Justin Trudeau just said every Canadian is a Muslim. Guess that settles it, eh? Muslim PM confirmed... or nah. Your quotes only mean so much. Context matters.

Those two things are nonequivalent

[Rev. Rye]

Trudeau said all Canadians are Muslims? I really looked into what the fuck IA is going on about here, and as far as I can tell, I think he's talking about this speech:



On the one hand, he did technically say, "we are all Muslims in Canada" (around the 11-minute mark), but then again, immediately afterward, he said "We are all Afzaal family members in Canada." By IA's logic, Trudeau claimed that not only are all Canadians Muslim, they're all members of the same literal family. Surely this couldn't be a message of solidarity akin to JFK's famous "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech, could it?



I know figurative speech can be difficult for people on the autism spectrum (assuming of course that IA actually is on it and didn't just claim to be so he could try and overrule my opinion on Sia's big vanity project), but as someone else who's on it, it shouldn't be that hard to suss out whether or not Trudeau actually meant "we are all Muslims in Canada" literally based on the context.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Trudeau said all Canadians are Muslims? I really looked into what the fuck IA is going on about here, and as far as I can tell, I think he's talking about this speech:



On the one hand, he did technically say, "we are all Muslims in Canada" (around the 11-minute mark), but then again, immediately afterward, he said "We are all Afzaal family members in Canada." By IA's logic, Trudeau claimed that not only are all Canadians Muslim, they're all members of the same literal family. Surely this couldn't be a message of solidarity akin to JFK's famous "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech, could it?



I know figurative speech can be difficult for people on the autism spectrum (assuming of course that IA actually is on it and didn't just claim to be so he could try and overrule my opinion on Sia's big vanity project), but as someone else who's on it, it shouldn't be that hard to suss out whether or not Trudeau actually meant "we are all Muslims in Canada" literally based on the context.

I was not literally claiming that Trudeau thinks of himself as a literal Muslim who believes Muhammad was the final prophet and all that mumbo jumbo. Nudge and Helios clearly understood what I meant. Honest mistake on your part I assume, but you're getting pretty childish there by questioning my claims of autism. You're one of my favourite posters and you're usually much better than that. I'll attribute it to a momentary lapse of judgement and I forgive you.

[The Grand Nudger]

I had no idea what you were talking about. Canadia isn't a real country and I don't follow it's fake politics. Call me when there's another american astroturf campaign to laugh at. Last noteworthy thing you did was burn down the white house and you didn't even have the decency to give our new crop of home grown seditionists any pointers.

Now look at the poor fucks. Failures. Crying on the internet like common jordan peterson.

[Rev. Rye]

Sorry about questioning whether or not you have an ASD, Point is, comparing that remark from Trudeau with some Jordan Peterson quotes about his personal belief has little merit. It's one thing if he just talked about being a Christian once and never again, but there's a lot more than just a few quotes. Overall, while there's been a lot of contradictory information (much of it coming from him) about his personal beliefs, overall, he teaches a philosophy that, once you strip away the imagery, is ultimately reactionary. One that promotes Christianity not necessarily because he believes himself to be washed in the blood of the lamb, but because he thinks promoting it makes lives happier and/or more meaningful, whether or not he actually believes it.

[The Grand Nudger]

Jordan Peterson has never once contradicted his repeatedly self identified christianity. He says things about his christianity that other christians don't believe and more than just few would call heretical..but they all do that.