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Decline of religion
RE: Decline of religion
(September 24, 2023 at 6:00 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(September 24, 2023 at 5:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Quoting the Bible again. The Bible is not a reliable source of information.

You keep asking questions that begin "Why do Christians..." and when I quote from their own holy book you think it's irrelevant.

Christians aren't robots that do exactly what the Bible says.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Decline of religion
(September 24, 2023 at 6:06 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(September 24, 2023 at 6:00 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: You keep asking questions that begin "Why do Christians..." and when I quote from their own holy book you think it's irrelevant.

Christians aren't robots that do exactly what the Bible says.

You asked for the source of the Petrine Primacy and I cited Matthew 16.  If you're looking for someone to weigh in with something a little less black-and-white I'm sure it'll come along shortly.
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RE: Decline of religion
(September 24, 2023 at 6:06 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(September 24, 2023 at 6:00 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: You keep asking questions that begin "Why do Christians..." and when I quote from their own holy book you think it's irrelevant.

Christians aren't robots that do exactly what the Bible says.

That would make them Chrino’s

Xians in name only  Great

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RE: Decline of religion
(September 24, 2023 at 6:22 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:
(September 24, 2023 at 6:06 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Christians aren't robots that do exactly what the Bible says.

That would make them Chrino’s

Xians in name only  Great

Paul said to the centurion standing there, ‘Is it legal for you to flog a Roman citizen who hasn’t even been found guilty?’

‘Of course not!’ exclaimed the centurion.

‘Damn!’ cried Paul. ‘Will you do it anyway?’ – Acts 22:25
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RE: Decline of religion
500 Swiss Catholics left the church in last 3 weeks. And seems church bosses aren't worried about lost souls as much as lost money. Because in Switzerland, faithful pay a "church tax" and church coffers are taking a big hit.

Quote:Catholic Church experiences exodus in wake of sex abuse scandal

The exodus of the Swiss faithful accelerated further following the sexual abuse scandal. In Fribourg alone, no less than 500 people have left the Catholic Church in the last three weeks. The institution, which depends on ecclesiastical taxes, is worried about its future.

“For personal reasons, I no longer wish to be subject to church tax.” Jérémy Stauffacher, an independent lawyer, no longer wishes to pay for the Catholic Church, which he made known last week in a letter addressed to his parish.

This erosion has accelerated, but it has been eating away at the institution for a long time. In ten years, departures have really jumped in Switzerland, going from 13,809 in 2011 to 34,182 in 2021.

The general secretary of the Catholic Ecclesiastical Corporation of the canton of Fribourg, David Neuhaus, regrets that the acceleration of these departures occurs while the Catholic Church is trying to shed all light on its past.

The University of Zurich study documenting more than 1,000 cases of sexual abuse was indeed commissioned by three Catholic bodies, including the Swiss Bishops' Conference.

The Church, which depends on ecclesiastical taxes, is worried about its future. According to David Neuhaus, without the revenue from these taxes, many services can no longer be provided.

According to a projection from the Ecoplan research office, the Swiss Catholic Church will no longer be able to compensate for the reduction in taxes from 2030 if it does not take measures.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/catholic-ch...l/48863274
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Decline of religion
(October 5, 2023 at 1:52 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: 500 Swiss Catholics left the church in last 3 weeks.  And seems church bosses aren't worried about lost souls as much as lost money.  Because in Switzerland, faithful pay a "church tax" and church coffers are taking a big hit.

Quote:Catholic Church experiences exodus in wake of sex abuse scandal

“For personal reasons, I no longer wish to be subject to church tax.” Jérémy Stauffacher, an independent lawyer, no longer wishes to pay for the Catholic Church, which he made known last week in a letter addressed to his parish.
I like how we do it in America.  I just stopped going to mass, stopped dropping money in the basket, and ignored the mailers from the Archdiocese of Seattle begging for money until they gave up.
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RE: Decline of religion
They never gave up, and they still claim your membership when they go hat in hand begging the us government for billions of dollars a year. You know, for your kids - you being a member and all. Fucking criminals. It's not a financial crime if you do it for gawd.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Decline of religion
(October 5, 2023 at 8:35 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: I like how we do it in America.  I just stopped going to mass, stopped dropping money in the basket, and ignored the mailers from the Archdiocese of Seattle begging for money until they gave up.

Especially since in some countries, the Catholic Church just takes money from the government budget.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Decline of religion
(October 6, 2023 at 12:16 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(October 5, 2023 at 8:35 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: I like how we do it in America.  I just stopped going to mass, stopped dropping money in the basket, and ignored the mailers from the Archdiocese of Seattle begging for money until they gave up.

Especially since in some countries, the Catholic Church just takes money from the government budget.

If they want that to come to a sudden stop they are proceeding correctly.  Pope promoting known kiddie diddlers.
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RE: Decline of religion
It's almost as if they're daring us to fuck them over...right? Well, good sirs, challenge accepted. I feel like they might owe alot of back taxes, as the bidness entity they profess themselves to be when they're pleading poverty before charity. Let's get someone in here that can count past ten without taking off their shoes and see just how many dollars in arear they are......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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