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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Before 2005, I would have absolutely thrilled to hear Peter Jackson was working on the prequel to LotR.
After watching the remake of King Kong all I can do now is hope that he doesn't fuck up the movie adaptation of one of my fondest childhood stories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMDpUihZyY
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I think he did a fair job with Kong, and a damned fine one with LOTR. The trailer indicates quality.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm
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Oh I don't know about the job with LoTR, it was on a couple of nights back and I can't get the image of Legolas surfing down the steps of Helms Deep on a shield Ninja-Turtle-style out of my head. Definitely broke the mood hard, and fast. I remember that scene more than any other part of the movies......The Hobbit is one of the first books I can remember reading. I'd rather it stayed a book than become a garbage movie. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm
I'm about as hardcore a Tolkien fan as exists, and despite a few instances of poetic (and that term applies on more than one level) license, I think the trilogy was brilliantly done. Target fixation on one minor detail in a movie is a surefire recipe for not-having-fun. I don't bother comparing books to movies very often. I consider them two separate works. In LOTR's case, however, the two are closer than I would ever have imagined possible.
While we're speaking of details, the scene in Rivendell between Aragorn and Arwen made me cry last time I watched it, and that is a part I remember being better rendered than the books did it.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm
(December 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Oh I don't know about the job with LoTR, it was on a couple of nights back and I can't get the image of Legolas surfing down the steps of Helms Deep on a shield Ninja-Turtle-style out of my head.
Why wouldn't he? He's a fucking elf and you feel like that ruined your suspension of disbelief? 
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 7:14 pm
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(December 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Oh I don't know about the job with LoTR, it was on a couple of nights back and I can't get the image of Legolas surfing down the steps of Helms Deep on a shield Ninja-Turtle-style out of my head. Definitely broke the mood hard, and fast. I remember that scene more than any other part of the movies......The Hobbit is one of the first books I can remember reading. I'd rather it stayed a book than become a garbage movie. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
I suspect that Legolas' shield surfing, as well as a number of other character "modifications" were done to appeal to certain market demographics.
I expected that the movies would depart from the books - and despite those departures, I thought they were good films in their own right.
I didn't care for using Gimli as comic relief (one dwarf tossing joke is one too many) - not to mention Merry and Pippen. Nor for the portrayal of Aragorn as an angsty exile who didn't want to reclaim the throne. Faramir and Denethor fared no better - I would have preferred those two characters to have been developed more in the movie.
Speaking of Faramir, I thought the biggest plot deviation blunder was Farmir taking Samwise, Frodo and the Ring to Osgiliath. Although Faramir did redeem himself for this act, Tolkein's Faramir did not and would not have done it in the first place. It did his character a great disservice, and left me thinking "WTF is this shit?!?" in the theater. Meh, I guess by doing that, you can do the whole "Frodo almost gives the ring to a Nazgul" bit, which was also crap.
I was also disappointed that the Scouring of the Shire was left out, though it would have made for an anti-climactic ending more so than it already had.
For all their faults, I still enjoy all three films - but they will never compare to the books.
I have higher expectations of the "The Hobbit" films - I think the story is more adaptable to screen in many ways.
Please Mr. Jackson - no dwarf jokes in this one, please.
(December 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm)Shell B Wrote: Why wouldn't he? He's a fucking elf and you feel like that ruined your suspension of disbelief?
Tolkein's elves don't shield surf.
Seriously. Turn in your LotR geek card.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 7:16 pm
I think Balin, Dwalin and Bombur may provide a little humor-but that was in the book.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 7:20 pm
(December 21, 2011 at 7:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Tolkein's elves don't shield surf.
Seriously. Turn in your LotR geek card.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 7:30 pm
(December 21, 2011 at 7:16 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I think Balin, Dwalin and Bombur may provide a little humor-but that was in the book.
Sure, and that's expected - I just don't want to see any more juvenile dwarf humor (beyond what's in character of the story). The dwarf tossing jokes in FotR and TTT were ridiculous, IMO.
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RE: The Hobbit
December 21, 2011 at 7:38 pm
(December 21, 2011 at 7:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Sure, and that's expected - I just don't want to see any more juvenile dwarf humor (beyond what's in character of the story). The dwarf tossing jokes in FotR and TTT were ridiculous, IMO.
They did change his character quite a bit. I took Gimli very seriously in the novel.
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