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Darwinning · December 21, 2011 at 4:28 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm)jimenez Wrote: If this is to hard to understand, watch the video on Carl Sagan 4th dimension on you tube. Perhaps this will help you in the understanding of God's dimension and ours .

"If you wish to make an apple-pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."

Aegrus · December 21, 2011 at 4:29 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm)jimenez Wrote: I truely recommend for all of you to read Numbers in Scripture by E.W. Bullinger.
He followed Newton study of the mathematical intelligence behind the bible.I also recommend all of you to watch the vedeo by Carl Sagan on 4th dimension, and perhaps these works will shed some light on the subject.
Without the proper education on the subject, you will never understand.

I am sorry if it seems like im trying to insult your intelligence, But im not. I am sure you are a very intelligent human being. But to spend your life studying God, mathematics, physics, and the universe is not an easy subject. That is why there exist so much confusion on the subject.

I believe that "trying" is all we can do in life. But in trying , we must read all the evidence and become educated on the subject.

If you do not understand the bible, read the commentaries by experts like E.W.Bullinger (numbers in scripture and other books of his) and Newton.

I had an excellent time in this discussion with all of you. I do not hate the atheist or any other religion or race. To "Hate" is to go against my principals. I just don’t agree with a lot of philosophies based on the facts and evidence against them. In the end i hope we all learned something about our beliefs. Please do not reply, i will not be answering anymore questions, do to the fact that there are children in this forum who even if slaped with the evidence, still would not understand.I have said what was meant to be said.For the rest of you who are respectful, I wish you all the best in life. Merry Christmas and God Bless.

Lol, exact same exit he used last time. Once again, he lost, and once again, he claims that he won.

Someone, please ban him. He clearly isn't interested in logical discourse.

Aegrus · December 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 2:30 pm)jimenez Wrote: Rhythm
Faith no more
Epimethean

If you are so sure on the bible not being a mathematical code or Gematria, prove me wrong.

You made the assertion, therefore you must prove it correct. I could tell you that there was a purple elephant orbiting earth. But you wouldn't have to believe me until I proved it.

You (the religious)have asserted that some kind of god exists. Therefore, you must prove that it does.

We (atheists and scientists) have asserted that evolution is real. We have proven it, witnessed it in labs, and traced its affects across centuries.

That's why we're in public schools, and you're not.

Epimethean · December 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm

Thimblewit has conceded yet another thread. He's quite the artful codger.

Anomalocaris · December 21, 2011 at 8:19 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 4:29 pm)Aegrus Wrote: [

Lol, exact same exit he used last time. Once again, he lost, and once again, he claims that he won.

Someone, please ban him. He clearly isn't interested in logical discourse.

Why? Could anyone serve as a better living, breathing, ever renewing example of the stunted intellect required to embrace the theist position?

houseofcantor · December 21, 2011 at 9:13 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 4:28 pm)Darwinning Wrote:
(December 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm)jimenez Wrote: If this is to hard to understand, watch the video on Carl Sagan 4th dimension on you tube. Perhaps this will help you in the understanding of God's dimension and ours .

"If you wish to make an apple-pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."

You must speak creation into being. Lucifer knows how to read scripture. Christians can't even follow the damn script. Devil

Shell B · December 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm

The only thing I got out of this thread is that I really get pulled away from the point someone is trying to make when they use the word principals to describe their principles.

houseofcantor · December 21, 2011 at 9:47 pm

(December 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm)Shell B Wrote: The only thing I got out of this thread is that I really get pulled away from the point someone is trying to make when they use the word principals to describe their principles.

That's more than I got; I just got hate and aggravation. Wanna trade? Angel

Epimethean · December 21, 2011 at 11:38 pm

Some of the principles of the principals here are that very seat of distraction.

Still chuckling at the acid jazz house-cosmos.

**Whateverist** · December 22, 2011 at 12:09 am

(December 21, 2011 at 3:03 pm)jimenez Wrote: I do not have intelligent discussions with people who make childish remarks.

My conversations with you are over!

And just when I was so close to converting .. oh well, to hell with that.

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