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(December 28, 2011 at 8:11 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Oh gods, I have to ask....
What is the reality?
That depends...on you POV or perspective, my love.
For this one?? Ellese1?? Perhaps she/he/it has just discovered the "New Age" spirituality. ..... You remember that nonsense that was perpetrated about 50 odd years ago....
by the gods and all that's wholey...i'm getting to old for this.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
December 28, 2011 at 9:10 am (This post was last modified: December 28, 2011 at 9:11 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.
So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??
Where are you?
What time is it??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
(December 28, 2011 at 7:49 am)Ellease1 Wrote: And yes I am behind times , since in the present there is now time. Naturally when in the mind, you are always trying to be ahead. Mind can never be in the present it resides only in th past and future. Mind is a greedy phenomena ruled by the ego, alway seeking knowledge of some sort, and it is all useless chit chat since it is always given to you by somebody else, who may also be in the same boat as yourself . Knowing is something different that rises up within. It is like the flower that comes into bloom, it's its nature, intrinsic. It comes in due season - knowledge perceived will always be in proportion to the mind or technology that conceive it.
(December 28, 2011 at 7:35 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(December 28, 2011 at 7:16 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Yes, every day is a new day to me. And if you say I'm preaching then that's what I'm doing. Naturally if you lack understanding you will paint. Besides Anything would be better than fumbling around in the dark.
While I commend your convictions elle preaching is not permitted on this forum. Perhaps you would like to word your posts in a manner that indicates HOW you view the world since you nor any one else is the sole possessor of a truth let alone THE TRUTH?
I have no views, views are basically attitudes, I have no attitude towards life I simple accept what is. Views are pictures painted with, sometimes bueatiful colour. They are consoling just like God is to the believer and since they can only be personal they serve only to keep you from the truth. I simply reflect the reality and nothing more.
My dear...there is ONLY NOW, that is why is it called The Present, a gift if you like poetic floridae.
I have no ego...lost it decades ago my dear little one.
What time is it??
Where are you??
Lost your ego? mmm! Don't mean to be insulting but maybe you should invest in a dictionary.
(December 28, 2011 at 7:49 am)Ellease1 Wrote: And yes I am behind times , since in the present there is now time. Naturally when in the mind, you are always trying to be ahead. Mind can never be in the present it resides only in th past and future. Mind is a greedy phenomena ruled by the ego, alway seeking knowledge of some sort, and it is all useless chit chat since it is always given to you by somebody else, who may also be in the same boat as yourself . Knowing is something different that rises up within. It is like the flower that comes into bloom, it's its nature, intrinsic. It comes in due season - knowledge perceived will always be in proportion to the mind or technology that conceive it.
(December 28, 2011 at 7:35 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(December 28, 2011 at 7:16 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Yes, every day is a new day to me. And if you say I'm preaching then that's what I'm doing. Naturally if you lack understanding you will paint. Besides Anything would be better than fumbling around in the dark.
While I commend your convictions elle preaching is not permitted on this forum. Perhaps you would like to word your posts in a manner that indicates HOW you view the world since you nor any one else is the sole possessor of a truth let alone THE TRUTH?
I have no views, views are basically attitudes, I have no attitude towards life I simple accept what is. Views are pictures painted with, sometimes bueatiful colour. They are consoling just like God is to the believer and since they can only be personal they serve only to keep you from the truth. I simply reflect the reality and nothing more.
My dear...there is ONLY NOW, that is why is it called The Present, a gift if you like poetic floridae.
I have no ego...lost it decades ago my dear little one.
What time is it??
Where are you??
Lost your ego? mmm! Don't mean to be insulting but maybe you should invest in a dictionary.
Still young are you??
Many here have "lost" their ego on their way to enlightenment and Scientific discovery......
but then you must be young yes??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.
So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??
Where are you?
What time is it??
Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from it.
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
I'm impressed, this has to be one of the best non answers I've ever seen.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
December 28, 2011 at 9:26 am (This post was last modified: December 28, 2011 at 9:27 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(December 28, 2011 at 9:17 am)Ellease1 Wrote:
(December 28, 2011 at 9:10 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.
So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??
Where are you?
What time is it??
Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from it.
Then you are not 'old' if you were you would realise that there is nothing"new"
Where are you??
What time is it?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.
So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??
Where are you?
What time is it??
Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from the mind. And you are right I have argued nothing, since there is nothing to argue, I was merely responding to mind42 insecurities, obviously this rumbled a few egos. And I make no apology here, if the truth hurts it is not my problem. Indeed this is what maturity is all about, growing up. You will be surprised to know that not many have, everybody grows old but not up. Hence the reason why a lot of people fall into the trap of belief. This whole idea of atheism and theism is simply nonsense. The question can never be answered. But you all insist on row down stream in the same boat arguing the toss. This is your intellectualism, it has it's uses but one needs to know when to put it down.
(December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am)Ellease1 Wrote: Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.
But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.
So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??
Where are you?
What time is it??
Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from the mind. And you are right I have argued nothing, since there is nothing to argue, I was merely responding to mind42 insecurities, obviously this rumbled a few egos. And I make no apology here, if the truth hurts it is not my problem. Indeed this is what maturity is all about, growing up. You will be surprised to know that not many have, everybody grows old but not up. Hence the reason why a lot of people fall into the trap of belief. This whole idea of atheism and theism is simply nonsense. The question can never be answered. But you all insist on row down stream in the same boat arguing the toss. This is your intellectualism, it has it's uses but one needs to know when to put it down.
Sorry dear you were saying??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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