Ignosticism

[KichigaiNeko]

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Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.

But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.

So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??

Where are you?

What time is it??

Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from the mind. And you are right I have argued nothing, since there is nothing to argue, I was merely responding to mind42 insecurities, obviously this rumbled a few egos. And I make no apology here, if the truth hurts it is not my problem. Indeed this is what maturity is all about, growing up. You will be surprised to know that not many have, everybody grows old but not up. Hence the reason why a lot of people fall into the trap of belief. This whole idea of atheism and theism is simply nonsense. The question can never be answered. But you all insist on row down stream in the same boat arguing the toss. This is your intellectualism, it has it's uses but one needs to know when to put it down.
And I think you should also invest in a dictionary, philosophising is something you do wit the intellect it works in conjunction wit the mind it is jingling knowledge which is always borrowed. life is not a philosophy It simply is.

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[leo-rcc]

Ellease1, I've removed a few of your duplicate posts. FYI

[Ellease1]

And yes I am behind times , since in the present there is now time. Naturally when in the mind, you are always trying to be ahead. Mind can never be in the present it resides only in th past and future. Mind is a greedy phenomena ruled by the ego, alway seeking knowledge of some sort, and it is all useless chit chat since it is always given to you by somebody else, who may also be in the same boat as yourself . Knowing is something different that rises up within. It is like the flower that comes into bloom, it's its nature, intrinsic. It comes in due season - knowledge perceived will always be in proportion to the mind or technology that conceive it.

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While I commend your convictions elle preaching is not permitted on this forum. Perhaps you would like to word your posts in a manner that indicates HOW you view the world since you nor any one else is the sole possessor of a truth let alone THE TRUTH?

I have no views, views are basically attitudes, I have no attitude towards life I simple accept what is. Views are pictures painted with, sometimes bueatiful colour. They are consoling just like God is to the believer and since they can only be personal they serve only to keep you from the truth. I simply reflect the reality and nothing more.

My dear...there is ONLY NOW, that is why is it called The Present, a gift if you like poetic floridae.

I have no ego...lost it decades ago my dear little one.

What time is it??

Where are you??

Lost your ego? mmm! Don't mean to be insulting but maybe you should invest in a dictionary.

Still young are you??

Many here have "lost" their ego on their way to enlightenment and Scientific discovery......

but then you must be young yes??

45 years young, and I must say it is very egotistical of you to claim enlightenment. First you need to become more aware of the mind and its cunning trickery before making claim to such lofty hights.

[KichigaiNeko]

45 years young, and I must say it is very egotistical of you to claim enlightenment. First you need to become more aware of the mind and its cunning trickery before making claim to such lofty hights.

It's OK honey...in another 10 years you will feel much more enlightened and sceptical of your current POV.

so young...

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Ellease1, I've removed a few of your duplicate posts. FYI

Thanks leo...I had no idea what was going on and was also trying to reconfigure my new version of and antivirus program via live support.

[Ellease1]

Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.

But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.

So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??

Where are you?

What time is it??

Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from it.

Then you are not 'old' if you were you would realise that there is nothing"new"

Where are you??

What time is it?

That's we're you are wrong, which comes as no surprise since you are mind orientated hence the reason why you repeating yourself like a parrot. You cannot see the new through regurgitating the old. Since you cling to mind for identity you miss, each morning the sun rises or should i say comes round it is new. And since you don't know where i am and what time it is i will tell. I am here and the time is now.

[Erinome]

You're authentically bat shit crazy, of that, I'm sure.

[KichigaiNeko]

Apart from the obvious the reality is undefinable, and yes I do remember that spiritual stuff it's on par with positivism an all other odiocy that seems to be still lingering even today, it all comes from the mind, just in different names. Every mind will have a point of view, since everybody's mind represent a point in space time. So you are better off dropping the whole idea and stick to fact, and please don't ask what are the fact. it's not doing much for your intellectual stance.

But my dear I am authentic..... and so do not need you approval or disapproval or opinion in any way.

So far you have argued nothing and have gotten yourself lost in philosophy and mind fucking. Just what is your point??

Where are you?

What time is it??

Authenticity is originality, you are far from original. Mind can never be original since it is always old. Mind is always old and the truth is always new, always remember this, it will help you to graduate from it.

Then you are not 'old' if you were you would realise that there is nothing"new"

Where are you??

What time is it?

That's we're you are wrong, which comes as no surprise since you are mind orientated hence the reason why you repeating yourself like a parrot. You cannot see the new through regurgitating the old. Since you cling to mind for identity you miss, each morning the sun rises or should i say comes round it is new. And since you don't know where i am and what time it is i will tell. I am here and the time is now.

Really?? How absolutely omnipotent of you to know what I do and do not. Or have you been reading 'Thief of Time' - Terry Pratchett ??

Ignosticism or igtheism is the theological position that every other theological position (including agnosticism) assumes too much about the concept of God and many other theological concepts. The word "ignosticism" was coined by Sherwin Wine, a rabbi and a founding figure of Humanistic Judaism.
It can be defined as encompassing two related views about the existence of God:
The view that a coherent definition of God must be presented before the question of the existence of god can be meaningfully discussed. Furthermore, if that definition is unfalsifiable, the ignostic takes the theological noncognitivist position that the question of the existence of God (per that definition) is meaningless. In this case, the concept of God is not considered meaningless; the term "God" is considered meaningless.
The second view is synonymous with theological noncognitivism, and skips the step of first asking "What is meant by 'God'?" before proclaiming the original question "Does God exist?" as meaningless.
Some philosophers have seen ignosticism as a variation of agnosticism or atheism,[1] while others have considered it to be distinct. An ignostic maintains that they cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or an atheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

What has the above got to do with your pov??

Where are you?? (You are here)

What time is it? (It is now)

So much for your infantile learning little one

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You're authentically bat shit crazy, of that, I'm sure.

Who Me??

Why thankyou Alei!! Nicest thing anyone has said to me lately (in the past 5 minutes)

Actually I prefer psyco-biatch...

[Heather]

You're authentically bat shit crazy, of that, I'm sure.

Agreed.

[KichigaiNeko]

Now girls.. this Elle person does not have you advantage of Astrophysics Alei...nor your fine Business mind Heather...give the kid a break ...they are only 45 and just gotten onto this hippy dippy shit.

[Jaysyn]

...they are only 45 and just gotten onto this hippy dippy shit.

No fool like an old fool.