That J.D. Vance Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

It weirder. It's a thing from social media...and no one would be surprised to hear that the old man got all the details wrong

There actually was a woman who ate a cat. There actually was a man wandering through columbus with a goose. That's how all this got started.

[Jackalope]

no one would be surprised to hear that the old man got all the details wrong

Old man with recreational Adderall habit who screams at clouds? Nah, couldn't be.

[Ivan Denisovich]

JD Vance now says Haitian immigrants are spreading HIV after bizarre pet-eating claim flops

Vance escalated his claims by linking the supposed arrival of Haitian immigrants to a rise in infectious diseases in Springfield, including HIV and tuberculosis. “Communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this small Ohio town. This is what Kamala Harris’ border policies have done,” he said, without offering evidence to support his claims.

Vance’s claims that Haitian immigrants are responsible for a rise in HIV reinforce these historical stigmas, stoking xenophobia and racial fear. Public health experts have widely discredited the idea that immigrants are driving HIV transmission.

https://www.advocate.com/election/jd-van...hiv-stigma

He should stick to couch banging

Nazi propaganda never gets old it seems - as nazis claimed that Jews spread typhus today shit stains look for other diseases to blame on undesirables.

[Rev. Rye]

He should stick to couch banging

Nazi propaganda never gets old it seems - as nazis claimed that Jews spread typhus today shit stains look for other diseases to blame on undesirables.

At least typhus made more sense as a communicable “other-related” disease than HIV. And there was at least more of a straight line to “public health risk,” even if they conveniently elided the fact that, oh yeah, they made many of the conditions (ghettoization, for one) that made typhus a huge problem for the Jewish community at the time.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The fun part is gonna be watching this shit stick to them. They're going extreme on a limb to try any turn the debate narrative without realizing they're digging even a bigger hole. Couch-fuckers, cat-ladies, and now cat-eaters.

Sun-Tzu had it right-- never interrupt your enemy in the middle of a mistake.

[Fake Messiah]

So, how exactly are Haitians giving the people of Springfield HIV? Are they fucking them all, are they just giving blood willy-nilly, or are they sharing needles? Now I'm curious, especially knowing that HIV in particular has very few routes to infection, and those scenarios cover everything except mother-child transmission. And the blood-giving one is itself extremely unlikely, since (from what I understand) all blood donations in America have been screened for HIV for decades.

... Vance picked one of the worst communicable diseases to claim Haitians are just spreading is what I'm saying.

J. D. Vance is simply tapping into an old racist trope that black people are sexually lewd and "can't control their sexual urges" and are perhaps raping white people who are too woke to admit it.

The belief that black people are sexually lewd predates the institution of slavery in America. European travelers to Africa found scantily clad natives. This semi nudity was misinterpreted as lewdness. White Europeans, locked into the racial ethnocentrism of the 17th century, saw African polygamy and tribal dances as proof of the African's uncontrolled sexual lust.

The English colonists accepted the Elizabethan image of "the lusty Moor," and used this and similar stereotypes to justify enslaving black people. In part, this was accomplished by arguing that black people were subhumans: intellectually inferior, culturally stunted, morally underdeveloped, and animal-like sexually. white people used racist and sexist ideologies to argue that they alone were civilized and rational, whereas black people, and other people of color, were barbaric and deserved to be subjugated.

https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/jezebel/index.htm

[Ravenshire]

JD's new theme song:

[Jackalope]

Sun-Tzu had it right-- never interrupt your enemy in the middle of a mistake.

*Napoleon

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The Haitian nightmare in Springfield will end as soon as Trump transports them all ‘back to Venezuela’.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

Republican Vice Presidential candidate JD Vance in an interview Wednesday said he would “consider” plans to privatize parts of the Department of Veterans Affairs and push for more private-health care options for patients in the system if elected this fall.

In an appearance on the Shawn Ryan Show podcast released Wednesday, the Ohio senator (who is former President Donald Trump’s running mate) also said he would fire or cut thousands of federal civilian jobs, including many within VA.

“Probably 90% to 95% of the people at the VA are fantastic human beings, but then you’ve got a small slice of the VA [who are] bad apples that makes it really hard for everybody else to do their job,” he said.

“This is why veterans spend three hours on the phone trying to get an appointment. This is why you have people commit suicide, because they’re waiting 28 days to get an appointment with the doctor. It’s a small sliver of the VA, but you can fire those people, right? Give the people who are doing their job a raise. Fire the people who aren’t doing their jobs.”

https://www.airforcetimes.com/veterans/2...f-elected/

Further proving he's an idiot, Vance proposes to improve VA service by cutting more staff. The long waits to set an appointment are a result of chronic understaffing. I generally get good care from the VA, and good treatment from its employees. Many of the VA's employees are veterans themselves, and are serious about delivering quality care.

The long lead times on appointments are also the result of understaffing. If they had more doctors, we'd get quicker appointments and quicker care.

I don't want my healthcare being exposed to the profit motive. I don't want decisions about my health-care being made by businessmen five states away.

I'm not sure how much medical care Vance has received from the VA, but his claims here reflect stereotypes more than reality, in my experience.