Anthropomorphizing

[Alan V]

Is energy really God?  This is a continuation of a previous discussion.

anthropomorphizing is attributing human characteristics to non-humans

do animals have consciousness? That is anthropomorphizing.

Many animals display the signatures of consciousness, but they do not possess human-level consciousness obviously.  So also obviously, consciousness is divisible and incremental rather than unitary.  Even in humans it comes and goes, depending on changes to brain chemistry and activation.

Please read this post.

According to Merriam-Webster, "anthropomorphizing" is "to attribute human form or personality to things not human."  That includes objects, animals, and forces of nature.

Energy is a force of nature, or actually several forces which emerged after the big bang.

and by the way I am not merely "attributing", I am proving!

To whom?  Please be sure to collect your Nobel Prize if this is true.  

So, you agree that energy is eternal, omnipresent, and omnipotent?

From what I have read, energy may or may not be eternal.  It may have been created in the big bang, with the positive energy of the various forces offset by the negative energy of gravity.  Some physicists think that the universe is the ultimate free lunch.  I understand some of the concepts in physics enough to leave cosmology to the professionals, who understand the math involved.

The energy-concept does possess other attributes often attributed to God.  However, I think it actually robs those attributes from the God-concept because, again obviously, no two things can possess all power.

I equated self-causal with self-deterministic and self-determinism with consciousness.

You still have to demonstrate that energy is conscious and willful.  Asserting it is not enough.  That's the key point.

Plus, if energy was created in the big bang, it was likely "caused" by a quantum fluctuation.  According to cosmologists, the quantum vacuum has properties which might account for the big bang.  In that sense, if that picture is correct, energy did not cause itself.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think many animals have some level of self-consciousness, as well as a good understanding of how the outer world works, which is in itself an input into consciousness. That we humans assign our own feelings to them is understandable, if shaky at best. After all, we too are only animals analyzing our world.

[Silver]

Disney does it best.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I anthropomorphize inanimate objects frequently, generally when I'm in a state of rage. I find that doing so is immensely therapeutic.

Boru

[Alan V]

I think many animals have some level of self-consciousness, as well as a good understanding of how the outer world works, which is in itself an input into consciousness. That we humans assign our own feelings to them is understandable, if shaky at best. After all, we too are only animals analyzing our world.

There are also aspects of animal awareness which are not available to people.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

‘Is an oyster self-aware? Nyet. A cat? Almost certainly. A man? Don’t know about you, tovarisch, but I am.’ - Manuel Garcia O’Kelly Davis, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress 

Boru

[Alan V]

Disney does it best.

I anthropomorphize inanimate objects frequently, generally when I'm in a state of rage. I find that doing so is immensely therapeutic.

Boru

I assume that our evolved human bias is to anthropomorphize, since we are social creatures.  We are predisposed to other people.

[The Grand Nudger]

The whole notion of gods is an anthropomorphization of natural forces, anyone arguing energy exists therefore gods exist - by any words- is getting awfully close to that singular truth.

[Ravenshire]

Disney does it best.

I dunno. The American electorate made an orange orangutan president. That's some fucking next level anthropomorphism!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Disney does it best.

I dunno. The American electorate made an orange orangutan president. That's some fucking next level anthropomorphism!

And actual orangutans aren't happy about the comparison.



Boru