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resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
#61
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 4:35 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 4:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Wow, that's stunning.  In a not very convincing kinda way.

Energy is (1) eternal, (2) omnipresent, (3) omnipotent, (4) consciousness.

1. conservation of energy

2. zero-point energy

3. power is the transformation of energy

4. energy is self-causal as every cause involves energy

(1) The observable universe is 13.8 billion years old. There's no data from "before" that, so you can't even demonstrate eternity, much less that energy is eternal.

(2) No, it isn't. Please learn what these words mean before you fling them around. ZPE is a quantum statistical phenomenon that does no work.

(3) No, power is energy over time. It's far from infinite. In fact, if energy were eternal then power would necessarily be zero.

(4) That's a contradiction.

By reduction to absrdity, I just farted something Divine.
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#62
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:57 pm)Sheldon Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:54 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: I pointed out that the blood cells and blood vessels in Dinosaur bones is evidence that they are not millions of years old.
Hmm, who to believe, science, or some Billy no name on the internet, peddling unevidenced archaic superstition.

search "blood in T-Rex bones"
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#63
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:58 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:49 pm)Sheldon Wrote: You don't believe a claim you made? 

Or you're offering semantic sophistry.

I think I know the answer by now, but can you demonstrate any objective evidence that the "universe is self deterministic", or that any deity exists, or is even possible?

(10) Fact; "energy exists"
(11) Fact; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"
(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"
(13) Fact; "every cause involves energy"
(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"
(15) Synonyms; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"
(16) (14,15,16) C; "energy is self-deterministic"


energy monism means the universe has the properties of energy
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Check yourself.  The repeated posting of the same things, which just so happen to be part of your linked material, is spamming the forum. This is also partial copy/paste of material you have written for use elsewhere.
I'm your huckleberry.
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#64
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:58 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:49 pm)Sheldon Wrote: You don't believe a claim you made? 

Or you're offering semantic sophistry.

I think I know the answer by now, but can you demonstrate any objective evidence that the "universe is self deterministic", or that any deity exists, or is even possible?

(10) Fact; "energy exists"
(11) Fact; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"
(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"
(13) Fact; "every cause involves energy"
(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"
(15) Synonyms; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"
(16) (14,15,16) C; "energy is self-deterministic"


energy monism means the universe has the properties of energy
Repeating the claim, does not objectively evidence your conclusion, so please offer something approaching objective evidence for any deity, or that any deity is even possible. 

If you can?
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#65
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:54 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:38 pm)Angrboda Wrote: [Image: Screenshot-2025-06-06-at-16-34-07-User-H...U-Wiki.png]

I'd be interested in hearing the specifics of what you feel Ron Wyatt and Kent Hovind have contributed in terms of proofs of the divine (assuming the above user is you).

Ron Wyatt discovered the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah. and Kent Hovind claimed Dinosaurs lived at the same time as man.

I proved Sodom and Gomorrah are evidence of God's very real interactions with man.

And I pointed out that the blood cells and blood vessels in Dinosaur bones is evidence that they are not millions of years old.

There are no ‘dinosaur bones’. There are dinosaur fossils - not the same thing.

Wyatt and Hovind are not scientists. They are morons.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#66
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 6:00 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:55 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (1) Listing random words
(2) Isn't
(3) Proof!

what are the random words?


Quote:SubtleVirtue: The reason I prove monism... is to demonstrate there is but one supreme God.
That is leaping out at me.
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#67
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:58 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:49 pm)Sheldon Wrote: You don't believe a claim you made? 

Or you're offering semantic sophistry.

I think I know the answer by now, but can you demonstrate any objective evidence that the "universe is self deterministic", or that any deity exists, or is even possible?

(10) Fact; "energy exists"
(11) Fact; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"
(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"
(13) Fact; "every cause involves energy"
(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"
(15) Synonyms; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"
(16) (14,15,16) C; "energy is self-deterministic"


energy monism means the universe has the properties of energy i.e. the universe is self-deterministic
I think I know the answer by now, but can you demonstrate any objective evidence that the "universe is self deterministic", or that any deity exists, or is even possible?
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#68
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 6:01 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 4:35 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: Energy is (1) eternal, (2) omnipresent, (3) omnipotent, (4) consciousness.

1. conservation of energy

2. zero-point energy

3. power is the transformation of energy

4. energy is self-causal as every cause involves energy

(1) The observable universe is 13.8 billion years old. There's no data from "before" that, so you can't even demonstrate eternity, much less that energy is eternal.

(2) No, it isn't. Please learn what these words mean before you fling them around. ZPE is a quantum statistical phenomenon that does no work.

(3) No, power is energy over time. It's far from infinite. In fact, if energy were eternal then power would necessarily be zero.

(4) That's a contradiction.

By reduction to absrdity, I just farted something Divine.

(1) can energy be created? please prove that!

(2) is ZPE omnipresent?

(3) are you claiming that the transformation of energy is not power?

(4) how so?
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#69
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 6:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:54 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: Ron Wyatt discovered the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah. and Kent Hovind claimed Dinosaurs lived at the same time as man.

I proved Sodom and Gomorrah are evidence of God's very real interactions with man.

And I pointed out that the blood cells and blood vessels in Dinosaur bones is evidence that they are not millions of years old.

There are no ‘dinosaur bones’. There are dinosaur fossils - not the same thing.

Wyatt and Hovind are not scientists. They are morons.

Boru

Are you claiming that they did not find what looks like T. Rex blood cells and blood vessels and connective tissue?
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#70
RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 6:01 pm)SubtleVirtue I pointed out that the blood cells and blood vessels in Dinosaur bones is evidence that they are not millions of years old. Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 5:57 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Hmm, who to believe, science, or some Billy no name on the internet, peddling unevidenced archaic superstition.

search "blood in T-Rex bones"
No thanks, it's your BS claim, get it published in a worthy peer reviewed scientific journal, then come back, and offer a citation for a young earth.
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