Evolution

[Drich]

Why do Atheist believe evolution cancels out creationism?

How does creationism still work in the theological sense along with evolution? The official position of the Catholic church is that evolution is true. That begs the question: what did Jesus die for if Adam & Eve never fell? We're getting saved from what?

Simply put "we" take the account of Creation in Genesis and marry it with the known fossil record. For instance Creation Happened as recorded, but where most assume a very limited time frame from the creation of man and the fall from grace. we insert the 900 trillion billion years or whatever the new number is that explains the existing fossil records.

Eden is well defined paradise bordered by 4 rivers, it was a paradise where Man made in the image of God resided. Everything outside of those rivers progressed and evolved at whatever the going rate was.
Everything in the garden or at least Man (Created in the Image of God) was created to be what man was about 5000 years ago.

That is when "Created in the Image of God Man." first intermingled with descended from apes man, that you all seem to be so keen on. This explains Cains wife, the cities and all of the "other people" atheists believe to be proof of inconsistencies in the genesis account.

Remember outside of the 7 days of creation, the Genesis account only focuses on what happens in the Garden of Eden until the fall of man. This does not mean everything outside of the boarders of eden, (the rest of the earth) ceased to exist.

---

Because God says how he created us, already human, he spoke us into existence. If he created swamp muck and we crawled out of such, he might have told us that, but that's not what He did. When you believe in God, you take the whole bible as truth, not your own cross bred interpretation of some hybrid creation/evolution.

He spoke Man Created in the image of God into existence. there was one example of one man being created this way. No one else was.

[NoMoreFaith]

It explains nothing unless you have evidence for existence.

Other, than that, it is surplus to requirement. Occams Razor prevails.

[Tobie]

Eden is well defined paradise bordered by 4 rivers, it was a paradise where Man made in the image of God resided. Everything outside of those rivers progressed and evolved at whatever the going rate was.
Everything in the garden or at least Man (Created in the Image of God) was created to be what man was about 5000 years ago.

You still believe this, despite the evidence of modern humans ( homo sapiens sapiens ) living way before 5000 years ago? Catal Huyuk, Damascus, Jericho, Byblos and Sidon are all cities inhabited by humans which were founded 800+ years before humans apparently existed, according to the biblical timeline.

[Drich]

Because God says how he created us, already human, he spoke us into existence. If he created swamp muck and we crawled out of such, he might have told us that, but that's not what He did. When you believe in Gid, you take the whole bible as truth, not your own cross bred interpretation of some hybrid creation/evolution.

If the Bible is the literal truth then why does the Catholic church say evolution is the go now? Where does that leave them with the theological aspects of Jesus?

That roman Catholic Church as parted company with the bible along time ago. Their "bible" wears a big hat and a new one gets voted in when the old one dies. I say that to say the bible is a secondary measure of the cannon of scripture for them. They have a living "Apostle/Prophet/emissary" in which to extrapolate direct revelation from God.. Even if it goes against the Literal works of the Holy Spirit, and by all accounts should be deemed as a "new doctrine."

If you read my explanation of Evolution/creation it leaves us right where the bible does. In need of redemption.

[Faith No More]

Simply put "we" take the account of Creation in Genesis and marry it with the known fossil record. For instance Creation Happened as recorded, but where most assume a very limited time frame from the creation of man and the fall from grace. we insert the 900 trillion billion years or whatever the new number is that explains the existing fossil records.

Eden is well defined paradise bordered by 4 rivers, it was a paradise where Man made in the image of God resided. Everything outside of those rivers progressed and evolved at whatever the going rate was.
Everything in the garden or at least Man (Created in the Image of God) was created to be what man was about 5000 years ago.

That is when "Created in the Image of God Man." first intermingled with descended from apes man, that you all seem to be so keen on. This explains Cains wife, the cities and all of the "other people" atheists believe to be proof of inconsistencies in the genesis account.

Remember outside of the 7 days of creation, the Genesis account only focuses on what happens in the Garden of Eden until the fall of man. This does not mean everything outside of the boarders of eden, (the rest of the earth) ceased to exist.

Does it hurt when you bend over that far backwards? You are just inventing assumptions to try and salvage a story that has clearly been fabricated by people with limited understanding of the history of the human race. Unless of course you have proof for any of these assumptions.

[Drich]

This is Galactic cluster JKS041, it is 10.2 billion light years away.

In other words the light we are seeing now has taken 10.2 BILLION years to reach us.

Makes rather a joke of a 6000 year old universe wouldn't you say?

And speaking of Evolution

Why do you assume that creation happened 6000 years ago?

[Jackalope]

If you read my explanation of Evolution/creation it leaves us right where the bible does. In need of redemption.

Prove it. Got any evidence of any of it?

I read it, and I will admit, it's an apologetic that I haven't heard before - which doesn't dissuade me from thinking it's bullshit.

[Drich]

Why is it that creationists are so adamant that god couldn't have created them through evolution?

They are not.

Hey, thats the same counter-argument my 7 year old used! Great minds!

Indeed, or did you misunderstand the fallacy of questions presented to me?

[Doubting Thomas]

Why do you assume that creation happened 6000 years ago?

It's always your type who are claiming that the universe is only 6000 years old, according to the bible lineage. Supposedly there's 4000 years between Adam & Eve and Jesus. Some bible nutter came up with that number many years ago, but YEC's keep trotting it out as irrefutable fact.

[Drich]

They are not.

Then why do they spend so much time trying to refute it?

Not all do.

Those who do only defend what they have been taught. They know what they argue is right, yet they may not understand what or why they argue what they do.

It's like riding a bike for the first time. Once you learn how to ride you want to show everyone even if you are not good at it. Those who tend to Argue, are the one who are just starting to learn what is it they believe.