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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 1:44 am
There you go. You either have a sense of humor or stupidly took that seriously. Either way, at least you are laughing and not freaking about gamer preferences.
Of all the things in the world to take seriously . . . I swear . . .
Don't feel bad. You and everyone else make electronics female. Male robot sounds aren't that sexy.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 1:47 am
(March 26, 2012 at 1:03 am)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: I hate to tell you, but once that 720 hits the market no company will be caught dead making 360 games. Meanwhile, I'll still be playing the latest games without upgrading a bit.
Yes, but the Xbox is reasonably cheap compared to keeping and maintaining a good gaming PC. I've been gaming on the Xbox platform for years, first with a normal Xbox, then with a standard Xbox 360, and finally with my Xbox 360 S. All together, the cost of these devices probably totals under £1000 (~$1,500).
A good gaming PC costs about the same (sometimes more), but in the same time frame, you'll probably spend much more on upgrading graphics, etc. In other words, 7 year old tech does not work well with today's games. I doubt very much that you could play Skyrim in all its wonder on graphics cards from 2005. Sure, you could probably play it with the graphics turned down, but what is the point of having a PC gaming rig if you are confined to using crappy graphics?
In short, it's a fucking platform. There are pros and cons of each. I currently have no time (or money) to waste on PC gaming. Xbox gaming is cheap, and it works fine. I don't have any problem with PC gamers; I just have problems with PC gamers who have a problem with my choice not to waste my money on something I wouldn't use that often.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 2:19 am
Geeks Gone Wild should be the title of this thread.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 6:24 am
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(March 25, 2012 at 7:27 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: But ask yourself this:
What happens when the Xbox 720 comes out, and it costs $700? All I'll need to do is spend $300 on a high end GPU three years from now, and it'll still outperform your console by a wide margin. Plus, PCs are backwards compatible so I won't have to throw out my old games. Who's paying too much then? Not to mention I don't have to deal with a monthly fee to play online.
This.
Let me further say that he is right in saying there is a huge misconception with the price needed to upgrade your PC. This is my first upgrade in almost 4 years. The only reason I rebuilt everything was because I wanted a Sandy Bride i7 and the socket is different from the first generation. I already had a quad-core CPU, I replaced it with another one which required a new board. If I hadn't upgraded my board and CPU my upgrade would have cost about $300 which is way lower then the new Xbox will be but will out preform it for years to come.
Furthermore, at least we CAN upgrade. You guys have been stuck with the same out dated hardware for almost 7 years and some how you're okay with playing brand new titles on a console that can't handle any anti-aliasing or shaders. Why pay $60 for a game that is a watered down version of the one PC gamers get for the same price, with less customization and features? Who's really being screwed there? Paying the same price for far less.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 7:08 am
We can argue back and forth about price. Show me a decent gaming PC that costs $500 (roughly the price of the Xbox 360 on release) and I'll give you the point. We will forget about monitors since both PC and console require them. Other than that, motherboard, graphics card, RAM, keyboard, mouse, etc should all be included in the price.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 7:21 am
Really, I don't think the comparison is quite as simple as that. Own a console, you probably still need a pc for utility not provided by the console. The question should then be, is a console more economical than the price differential between a utility pc and a gaming pc. The comparison is a little less clear, I think.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 7:47 am
(March 26, 2012 at 7:08 am)Tiberius Wrote: We can argue back and forth about price. Show me a decent gaming PC that costs $500 (roughly the price of the Xbox 360 on release) and I'll give you the point. We will forget about monitors since both PC and console require them. Other than that, motherboard, graphics card, RAM, keyboard, mouse, etc should all be included in the price.
That's not going to happen. The initial build will run you about $800-$1000. However, the new Xbox is already out dated and it hasn't even been released yet. Where as all I will need to do is spring for a new graphics card in 4 years if I want to continue maxing out my settings.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 8:26 am
...and the price of new graphics cards is? Extortionate the last time I checked. The latest NVIDIA GeForce GTX680 is almost $700 at PC World.
Not to mention, graphics aren't the only thing you need to upgrade. RAM is important as well, and processing power.
So yes, you can get better graphics on a PC, I don't think anyone here is arguing that. What you can't get on a PC is a cheap environment that will last years, and which all games are designed for. If gaming were all about the graphics and hacks, your argument would be valid. However, for me, gaming is about the overall experience, and that includes the story, the interface, etc. I can get all that for a lot less hassle and cost on a console, and with Xbox Live, I even get downloadable content too.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 8:43 am
You guys care far too much about specs and performance. As long as I enjoy a game then I am happy. To me it is the story and gameplay that are the most important. You don't need fantastic specs for either of these.
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RE: Post your rig information
March 26, 2012 at 9:00 am
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(March 26, 2012 at 8:26 am)Tiberius Wrote: ...and the price of new graphics cards is? Extortionate the last time I checked. The latest NVIDIA GeForce GTX680 is almost $700 at PC World.
Not to mention, graphics aren't the only thing you need to upgrade. RAM is important as well, and processing power.
So yes, you can get better graphics on a PC, I don't think anyone here is arguing that. What you can't get on a PC is a cheap environment that will last years, and which all games are designed for. If gaming were all about the graphics and hacks, your argument would be valid. However, for me, gaming is about the overall experience, and that includes the story, the interface, etc. I can get all that for a lot less hassle and cost on a console, and with Xbox Live, I even get downloadable content too.
Yes but RAM and CPU don't need to be upgraded all that regularly. The GTX 680 was JUST released like not even a week ago and is probably 10 Failboxes in a single card. I haven't bothered looking up the specs.
The point is, games nowadays are supposed to look real, if it's not cartoonish that is. You can spew about gameplay all day which is fine, obviously a game is crap without gameplay. But wouldn't you prefer superb realism to go along with your great story line? I'm sorry but playing a game like Skyrim when all the textures are matted and blocky, with harsh edges and terrible shading just ruins the experience of traversing the Elder Scrolls "world". Real life doesn't have harsh edges and shitty textures.
Example: Arkham City was released about 3 months sooner for the Xbox because the developers reached a point that the Xbox would no longer be able to handle it. However, the PC version continued in development to bring the best realism available with Direct X11. Realism your Direct X9 Xbox can only dream of. Even at this, plenty of Xboxes had a hard time running Skyrim and Arkham City without crashing after a few hours of gameplay. It's just pathetic.
Saying that all that matters is gameplay is like paying money to see a movie in IMAX 3D and it ends up being in blurry ass 480p resolution. You're settling for less.
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