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[Darwinian]

Kittenshere..

With the greatest respect, what you have to remember is that this is an

ATHEIST FORUM

and one of the things we like to do here is to dispel the superstitious mythology and woolly minded thinking of the religious, such as yourself.

So, if you come on to an

ATHEIST FORUM

and make, what we would consider, ridiculous statements such as the ones you have made then of course you are going to open yourself up to ridicule, especially from fiercely intelligent anti-theists such as Kyu.

It's a bit like me coming into your home and putting up atheist posters everywhere and then me saying, "well, if you don't like them just ignore them". Of course people aren't going to simply ignore your, apparently, deluded ramblings, especially not Kyu, the angry atheist.

[kittenshere]

well I know its a atheist forum. Thats why I offerd to go private instead of being needlessly condemned by anyone here who doesnt want to do anyitng but dish out stupid, childish, uncalled for remarks. I thought people here knew how to act as a mature adult. Just because they dont belive in God doesnt mean they have to act stupid too.

[Darwinian]

They do know how to act like adults which is why you haven't had anywhere near the rough ride you would have had at other atheist forums.

The problem is that you seem to be here on a mission to share your views of the bible with everyone and to be honest, they're really not interested. You see, we've heard it all before, countless times. You may think that you have some sort of unique perspective but then so does every other theist who's come on here.

This approach can be seen as rather arrogant as you don't seem to have any desire to learn about us as atheists, what makes us tick or why we think the way we do. Rather you simply want to impose your views on us instead.

If I go to a Christian forum I ask them questions and try to understand them. I certainly don't assume they want to know all about me and my views. Not unless I'm asked that is.

It would be far better if you approached this forum from the point of view of understanding and learning rather than teaching, but, if all you want to do is talk about yourself and your personal interpretation of the bible then perhaps this is not the place to do it.

Personally I would rather you stayed and learnt about us and then maybe we could learn about you.

[kittenshere]

I know the atheist view. they are filled with hate. If they dont have any curiosity that is fine. they also dont have to be rude to me. Im not trying to change them. I could care less if they stayed atheist their entire life. I simply said SOME are atheist due to what christians have taugh about God and torture. I simply wanted those to know its not true. Now if they dont have interest in the subject thats i fine with me. Just becusae others think it is stupoid DOES NOT MAKE IT SO. Beleive it or not there are some men and women who want to belive in God but walked the other way due to christian teachings. those are the ones im looking for not the rest of you.

[Tiberius]

I know the atheist view. they are filled with hate.

Bollocks. I don't like the way religion controls people and makes good people commit horrible crimes; that doesn't equate to "filled with hate". Perhaps I hate some aspect of religion, or some theists, but you'd be hard pushed to say that that makes me "hate filled".

If they dont have any curiosity that is fine. they also dont have to be rude to me. Im not trying to change them.

If you aren't trying to change them then why are you here? If you were here to talk, you'd have (like Darwinian said) tried to understand how atheists view things rather than preach preach preach. Either start listening and asking questions, or go away. We don't have time for preaching here, especially since we've heard it all before.

I simply said SOME are atheist due to what christians have taugh about God and torture.

Some, but not most by a long shot. Atheism is the rejection of all theism, not just Christianity. We reject Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, everything. We find the very concept of God both philosophically and logically unsound.

[Edwardo Piet]

Kitten,

Yes, just because someone thinks something is stupid does not make it so, indeed.

And just because you think atheists are 'filled with hate' as you say, that doesn't make it so. Atheists can be good people just as much as any non-atheists can (be it theist, deist or whatever).

EvF

[Tiberius]

Just to add, if you really are here to talk and not convert, why not go and post in some other discussions rather than stay in your introductions thread?

[Darwinian]

I know the atheist view. they are filled with hate.

You obviously don't know the atheist view then if you actually believe that statement.

If they don't have any curiosity that is fine.

I would argue that we have more curiosity than most as we are always asking questions and don't simply believe what we are told.

they also don't have to be rude to me.

By this I assume you mean Kyu. Don't take it personally, he's rude to most theists. It's the way God made him

I'm not trying to change them.

Glad to hear it.

I simply said SOME are atheist due to what Christians have taught about God and torture.

That may be true. But know they are atheists they are not likely to be tempted back because of a re-interpretation of the bible. They don't believe in Hell, torture e.t.c. anymore than you believe in the halls of Valhalla.

Now if they don't have interest in the subject thats i fine with me.

We certainly do have an interest in the subject, that's why we're here to counter it with logic and reason and common sense.

Believe it or not there are some men and women who want to believe in God but walked the other way due to Christian teachings. those are the ones I'm looking for not the rest of you.

A very, very naive view in my opinion and I wish you all the luck in the world.

[kittenshere]

I know. We have so many different religions out there becuase each understnad the bible teachings different. This is why I do not have a religion, I Dont go to church, and had no teacher of any kind concerning the bible. I always knew how things really were but didnt know how to explain it to others. I came across that site one day and was in disbelief he believed the same as me. I became obsessed with that site and made my own bible from it. It comes with full complete explanations. I agreed with eveyrting that man said from first word to the last.

I know there are SOME people who dont belive in God due to teachings, by christians and whomever. those are the ones im hunting. Not the ones who have no real reason to disbelive other than they cant see God...well you also cant see air.

[Edwardo Piet]

Believe it or not there are some men and women who want to believe in God but walked the other way due to Christian teachings. those are the ones I'm looking for not the rest of you.

Well whether you simply want to believe or not - that's got absolutely nothing to do with the truth (or lack of truth for that matter) of such a belief.

Not the ones who have no real reason to disbelive other than they cant see God...well you also cant see air.

The difference being that there's actually evidence for air.

EvF