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Someone help me out
#1
Someone help me out
I just got this link on my facebook news feed. Don't quite understand whether the guy is posting it because he's a religious nut or what.


Have a read:
crappy shared facebook post Wrote:Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

Now for starters, can anyone verify that Einstein actually said all this.

Second, I'd like you all to rip this shit to shreds Big Grin
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#2
RE: Someone help me out
Hahahaha, The student was Einstein? If you're lying for Jesus, you might as well go BIG.

Is this like the "You just murdered Beethoven" lie?

Anyway, the point is, that all the examples are empirically measurable, light, heat, evolution can be used to predict results (i.e. prediction of DNA results between related species).

God defies measurement, and indeed definition and therein lies the difference. You do not have faith the professors brain exists, you have empirical and testable theories based on knowledge(precedent of observation and measurement).
Essentially, the argument is that God exists only in the places you cannot observe. God becomes unobservable, and in that, indistinguishable from non-existent.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#3
RE: Someone help me out
The anti-intellectualism is strong in this one.
Also: strawmanning.
So these philosophers were all like, "That Kant apply universally!" And then these mathematicians were all like, "Oh yes it Kan!"
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#4
RE: Someone help me out
DENIED: http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

Also, there are far more than 5 senses, and you can see brains through neuroimaging.
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#5
RE: Someone help me out
Haha terrored. I'm so posting this.
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#6
RE: Someone help me out
I saw this aswell, it is so laughable. My response was:

This is complete bullshit. Einstein was a) Jewish and b) Agnostic. He also studied physics and mathematics, so would never have been taught evolution.
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#7
RE: Someone help me out
So this was the guys response after I showed him the link which Tiberius posted.

Quote:Irrespective of whether Einstein actually said it, I think the content contains a very important message.

Can someone tell me what this 'important message' is? I must of missed it.
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#8
RE: Someone help me out
(April 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Can someone tell me what this 'important message' is? I must of missed it.

That God exists in the unobservable aspects of the Universe, hiding, because observation makes him cease to exist?

God is very quantumthingymajig these days.



Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#9
RE: Someone help me out
Tearing garbage apart still makes it garbage. Christians just badly tape and glue it back together again. You can keep tearing it apart again and again, but we just end up with theists worshiping a fucked up lump of glue and tape.
This is stupid
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#10
RE: Someone help me out
(April 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote: Tearing garbage apart still makes it garbage. Christians just badly tape and glue it back together again. You can keep tearing it apart again and again, but we just end up with theists worshiping a fucked up lump of glue and tape.

Yeah it's pretty pointless arguing. I'm not going to respond to the guy, he's not the kind of person I'd expect to be into this philosobabble. He's pretty damn intelligent, but as usual religion finds a way to brainwash people.
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