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RE: Global Warming
August 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm
(August 17, 2009 at 6:48 am)northumbrian66 Wrote: Here in the UK, back in 2004 or 2005, we were told by the 'experts' that in future, due to global warming, we should expect long hot dry summers. They even recommended that we should start growing drought resistant plants in our gardens! Gues what? Its pissed down every summer since! Floods all over the country. Houses virtually made unliveable etc. But we were given the reason for all this by the archbishop, or archdeacon (I can never remember their ranks) of Carlisle, claiming that it was GOD's punishment. The reasons were due to our selfishness, greed, love of beer and the opposite sex, blah, blah, blah and that red rag to all religious ghouls: HOMOSEXUALITY!
The bad weather appears to be worse up here in the far north of England in the border regions with Scotland, which is also having a bad time of it. Undaunted the 'experts' were at again earlier this year predicting a 'barbeque summer' (what ever the hell thats supposed to mean!). Yes you've guessed it RAIN, RAIN AND MORE RAIN. The temperatures have averaged 14C to 18C but on the odd days the sun has appeared, a balmy 19C/20C!! Hardly drought conditions.Over this weekend the forecasters have told us that this next week (17th to the 21st of August) will be ok and Wednesday will be be hot and dry. That means I can now use both hands to count the number of hot dry days this summer. O'h and GOD must still be unhappy with us, especially in the border regions of England and Scotland.
Global climate change has nothing to do with people who choose to not follow a religious lifestyle. It's a NORMAL thing that happens and has happened many times. Global warming is NOT the correct term. I hate that term and people who study this stuff don't even like that term either. We just so happen to be living in a time that Earth is really changing as far as climate is concerned. We also are very industrious and that is causing heat to be trapped in our atmosphere. That is why they call it global warming but when one part of the world heats up...another cools down. The whole Earth can't just heat up at once. We have weather patterns that will shift and become more extreme but we'll still have cold places, hot places, dry places, and wet places. The only catch is that dry places may become wet, warm places may become cool and so on. No one can predict what will happen when the ice melts enough to raise our oceans a great deal. That will change the ocean current which will make our wind currents shift and we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
It won't kill us. Humans have survived global climate changes in the past but they left no written record of the events.
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RE: Global Warming
August 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm
(August 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm)dry land fish Wrote: (August 17, 2009 at 6:48 am)northumbrian66 Wrote: Here in the UK, back in 2004 or 2005, we were told by the 'experts' that in future, due to global warming, we should expect long hot dry summers. They even recommended that we should start growing drought resistant plants in our gardens! Gues what? Its pissed down every summer since! Floods all over the country. Houses virtually made unliveable etc. But we were given the reason for all this by the archbishop, or archdeacon (I can never remember their ranks) of Carlisle, claiming that it was GOD's punishment. The reasons were due to our selfishness, greed, love of beer and the opposite sex, blah, blah, blah and that red rag to all religious ghouls: HOMOSEXUALITY!
The bad weather appears to be worse up here in the far north of England in the border regions with Scotland, which is also having a bad time of it. Undaunted the 'experts' were at again earlier this year predicting a 'barbeque summer' (what ever the hell thats supposed to mean!). Yes you've guessed it RAIN, RAIN AND MORE RAIN. The temperatures have averaged 14C to 18C but on the odd days the sun has appeared, a balmy 19C/20C!! Hardly drought conditions.Over this weekend the forecasters have told us that this next week (17th to the 21st of August) will be ok and Wednesday will be be hot and dry. That means I can now use both hands to count the number of hot dry days this summer. O'h and GOD must still be unhappy with us, especially in the border regions of England and Scotland.
Global climate change has nothing to do with people who choose to not follow a religious lifestyle. It's a NORMAL thing that happens and has happened many times. Global warming is NOT the correct term. I hate that term and people who study this stuff don't even like that term either. We just so happen to be living in a time that Earth is really changing as far as climate is concerned. We also are very industrious and that is causing heat to be trapped in our atmosphere. That is why they call it global warming but when one part of the world heats up...another cools down. The whole Earth can't just heat up at once. We have weather patterns that will shift and become more extreme but we'll still have cold places, hot places, dry places, and wet places. The only catch is that dry places may become wet, warm places may become cool and so on. No one can predict what will happen when the ice melts enough to raise our oceans a great deal. That will change the ocean current which will make our wind currents shift and we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
It won't kill us. Humans have survived global climate changes in the past but they left no written record of the events.
Really!
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RE: Global Warming
August 20, 2009 at 11:41 am
In the dinosaur days (6 thousand years ago ) Antarctica was tropical. I wouldn't mind a little global warming here from time to time. Although we did have a stretch of heat a couple weeks ago that was more than I've seen here ever and last winter there was a stretch of cold worse than I've seen also. Hmmmm.
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RE: Global Warming
August 20, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Quote:Humans have survived global climate changes in the past but they left no written record of the events.
Except possibly in mythology, and the most ancient of books... Rain for 40 days? Bad example...
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RE: Global Warming
August 20, 2009 at 5:15 pm
It's rained here for 40 days before, more than once. We have a permanent layer of moss growing over our back yard. No one's built an ark yet......
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RE: Global Warming
August 20, 2009 at 6:27 pm
(August 17, 2009 at 12:22 pm)Retorth Wrote: The earth has been around for billions of years...industrialisation has been around 1 to 200 years approximately...and we seem so sure that aluminium cans and plastic bags are gonna destroy the earth I don't think anyone's really concerned about the welfare of Earth so much as the survival of humanity on it. That's something plastic bags and aluminium cans might impede if we continue at our current rate.
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RE: Global Warming
August 20, 2009 at 7:32 pm
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(August 17, 2009 at 12:22 pm)Retorth Wrote: The earth has been around for billions of years...industrialisation has been around 1 to 200 years approximately...and we seem so sure that aluminium cans and plastic bags are gonna destroy the earth
I don't remember ANYONE ever making that claim.Those things (especially plastics) are a hazard to the environment,especially at sea,but hardly life threatening to humans.
George Carlin put it this way "The earth isn't going anywhere.WE ARE"
We aren't harming the planet,but we do seem to be making it uninhabitable for ourselves. After humans fade in to a thoroughly deserved extinction,the earth will recover withing an ego shatteringly short time. LIFE will survive,in some form. Within a few thousand years,it will be as if we never existed.
I accept that it's likely that humans are at least partly to blame for global warming. Of course it's all academic to me.On an emotional level, I honestly don't give a shit. With any luck I'll be dead before any of it becomes more than a petty inconvenience.
My own position is to lump Holocaust deniers,9/11 Truthers,Moon landing deniers, and global warming deniers of different hues all into the same bag of mixed nuts. Mostly they seem to be made up of paranoid and/or ignorant people who are unable to distinguish between being a sceptic and a contrarian.
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RE: Global Warming
August 22, 2009 at 2:46 pm
People are blaming global warming for the recent heat waves.
Even Portland, Oregon had its fair share of record breaking heat back in the last week of July.
And boy was it hot!!
But like every body else we had to adapt to our suroundings.
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RE: Global Warming
August 22, 2009 at 2:56 pm
(August 22, 2009 at 2:46 pm)Amphora Wrote: People are blaming global warming for the recent heat waves.
Even Portland, Oregon had its fair share of record breaking heat back in the last week of July.
And boy was it hot!!
Boy wasn't it! I'm just across the river. I don't remember heat like that for that long of period of time in the last 37 years I've lived here.
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RE: Global Warming
August 22, 2009 at 4:30 pm
(August 22, 2009 at 2:56 pm)binny Wrote: Boy wasn't it! I'm just across the river. I don't remember heat like that for that long of period of time in the last 37 years I've lived here.
Over the river and through the woods? I'm sorry I could not resist!
It was very hot. You live in Washington right? What part of Washington do you live in?
Some areas up in washington I heard got even hotter than Oregon? Is this true?
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