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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 12, 2012 at 8:55 pm
There is no free land these days every country is in some way with straining its people and screwing them, over some more then others *cough*Islamic country's*cough*
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 13, 2012 at 9:28 am
(May 12, 2012 at 8:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It's now the Land of the Nowhere Near as Free as You Thought You Were.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Countries are poor ideas from the start, there's no reason to seperate people from one another on some kind of economic-cultural divides, you look at the development of regional economies and cultures and theyre basically little countries. There can arise only conflict from drawing lines in the sand about where you can go because only then can a man step across the line, just take, for example, the palestinian conflict, this has continued because of land wars, seriously it's just other land. The only reason that countries exist is because it is best for the people in power, in the beginning if you didnt like the ruler then you made your own country and became the ruler, becoming powerful. When this is played out on a global scale and there is no more room to inhabit we see the sort of senseless amoral violence and corruption that is rife in modern societies.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 17, 2012 at 5:40 pm
(May 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm)liam Wrote: Countries are poor ideas from the start, there's no reason to seperate people from one another on some kind of economic-cultural divides, you look at the development of regional economies and cultures and theyre basically little countries. There can arise only conflict from drawing lines in the sand about where you can go because only then can a man step across the line, just take, for example, the palestinian conflict, this has continued because of land wars, seriously it's just other land. The only reason that countries exist is because it is best for the people in power, in the beginning if you didnt like the ruler then you made your own country and became the ruler, becoming powerful. When this is played out on a global scale and there is no more room to inhabit we see the sort of senseless amoral violence and corruption that is rife in modern societies.
Oligarchy by demography or corporate profit center is still oligarchy.
But of course you are right in that it is all about power and little thiefdoms.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm
(May 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm)liam Wrote: Countries are poor ideas from the start, there's no reason to seperate people from one another on some kind of economic-cultural divides, you look at the development of regional economies and cultures and theyre basically little countries. There can arise only conflict from drawing lines in the sand about where you can go because only then can a man step across the line, just take, for example, the palestinian conflict, this has continued because of land wars, seriously it's just other land. The only reason that countries exist is because it is best for the people in power, in the beginning if you didnt like the ruler then you made your own country and became the ruler, becoming powerful. When this is played out on a global scale and there is no more room to inhabit we see the sort of senseless amoral violence and corruption that is rife in modern societies.
Poor ideas, you say? How is it a great idea to put a multitudes of peoples with a different language, different culture and different religions into a single country and expect them to live together?
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 17, 2012 at 10:45 pm
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(May 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Poor ideas, you say? How is it a great idea to put a multitudes of peoples with a different language, different culture and different religions into a single country and expect them to live together?
It's worked out better for America than whatever Turkey's doing.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 17, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Quote:Still waaay cheaper than Oz buddy.
Is it?
What if you lose your job,get old or sick? Or,heaven forbid, want to go university? 
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The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 18, 2012 at 12:09 am
Compared to what most of the other 6 billion or so put up with every day, yes. I think it's important to keep a perspective of our freedom not in terms of getting everything we want (cheap and free to us everything) but with a much broader context.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 18, 2012 at 4:21 am
(May 17, 2012 at 10:45 pm)Aegrus Wrote: (May 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Poor ideas, you say? How is it a great idea to put a multitudes of peoples with a different language, different culture and different religions into a single country and expect them to live together?
It's worked out better for America than whatever Turkey's doing.
They come together willingly and to earn money. Nothing else keeps these people together.
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RE: The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?
May 18, 2012 at 2:25 pm
having multitudes of people together in a country with different languages and cultures you say? in a single country you say? this has never occured before...except in most countries in the modern world.
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