Detoxification of Heavy Metals

[John V]

An update:

My doctor refused to check for heavy metals... he says there's no reason for me to have that condition.

Try a different doctor.

So instead, he proposed that I go to a sleep clinic and see if I have sleep apnea, which has basically the same symptoms.

Has anyone dealt with this before?

My wife has it. She uses a CPAP machine, which is a mask she wears while sleeping which ups the air pressure enough to keep the airways open. Works fine for her.

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I'm assuming you haven't ever had the symptoms I do, but do you feel better in general after this process?

Yes, it's fantastic if you do it right (particularly ending the fast). Good for every part of your body. Your mind, too.

[pro sports5]

If 2 molecules banged together and exploded and created gas that clumped together that created planets... is it not the same as saying that any explosion that happens can create mass that is bigger than it was in its original state before it blew up?

[thesummerqueen]

Please explain to me why fasting is good for your body and your mind?

[John V]

Please explain to me why fasting is good for your body and your mind?

Based on your link you seem to have your mind made up against it already. Unless you tell me otherwsie, no, I'm not going to waste my time telling you about it.

[KichigaiNeko]

What you don't understand SummerQueen is that here in Perth Western Australia there IS a problem with the investigative abilities of the GENERAL Practitioners here.

What I am advocating is that FTR pursue his issues with Specialists.

I have no idea what it is like for you in North Carolina but here it does seem that GENERAL PRACTITIONERS are reluctant to investigate anything that is not remedied from the latest drug representative. Also the amount of Aluminium and Iron III here in our environment is substantially high as far as my understanding goes. Zen has a right fun time running a magnet over any machinery he has to repair.

@FTR DEMAND that your GP reference you to an appropriate Specialist for further investigation. It will cost you, but then it just MAY be worth the effort since you are NOT over 65.

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As for fasting?

I have no idea other than an Ayur-Vedic presumption that to send nothing but juices or water through you gastro-intestinal tract gives your metabolic systems a "rest" usually for no more than 7days better less say about 48 hours.

"VALUE?" I have no idea... it will be something that FTR MAY like to try or he may not...up to FTR

[thesummerqueen]

I'm always willing to hear scientific evidence to the contrary. It's been my experience, however, that juice fasts, and fasts in general that have nothing to do with surgeries or blood tests, are not based on scientific evidence as to their efficacy.

Eating more vegetables and fruit is always a good thing, provided you have a normal digestive and immune system. I don't see any reasoning why eating ONLY such in a juice form (remember, our digestive system breaks down raw foods anyway) would be beneficial, especially if it's all you're eating.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go drop out some 'toxins' with the digestive help of strong coffee.

[KichigaiNeko]

I didn't say they did dearie.

READ my post again

[thesummerqueen]

I was talking to John V, Kich, not you.

[FallentoReason]

My mum said that her brother actually has sleep apnea. It's a complication that gets passed down through the genes, so I guess I might as well go with this for now and see what the sleep test has to say. If it's not the case that I have sleep apnea, well, then I'll go to a specialist who will actually work with me rather than against the tests I want to have done.

I know I'm no expert on diseases, but when people all over the world are shouting at the top of their lungs that they had the exact same symptoms as me and it turned out to be heavy metal poisoning... add two and two together!

[Angrboda]

In my experience, claims such as the ones John is making fall squarely in the realm of pseudoscience and quackery.

If he is unwilling to present credible scientific evidence for it (likely a wise move on his part), I suggest you dismiss his advice.


"What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." ~ Christopher Hitchens



(I'm poking around for information on the topic and will post what I find here, if anything.)

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"Natural Hygiene is dangerous because it encourages prolonged fasting and discourages proven medical interventions." ~ Stephen Barrett, M.D., Quackwatch ()

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Not relevant, but quite funny, this is a claim for the John Ellis Electron Air Water Machine, apparently from Popular Science mazagine.

"Fifty years ago the hydrogen bond angle in water was 108° and you rarely heard of
anyone with cancer. Today, it's only 104° and, as a result, cancer is an epidemic!! By
using our machine you can increase the bond angle to 114° and, unlike any other water,
doctors can see an immediate change in the red blood cells under a microscope!
It's truly amazing!!"