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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm
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(May 6, 2013 at 9:24 am)Gabriel Syme Wrote: In all contemporary debates regarding (eg) homosexuality, abortion and same-sex marriage, the religious position is backed up by demonstrable scientific knowledge and critical thinking.
Poppycock. The only argument the religious position has is loosely and illogically hinged on the words abomination and sin.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm
(May 6, 2013 at 9:24 am)Gabriel Syme Wrote: Accordingly then I would say an advantage of faith is that it gives us the courage and intellectual credibility to accept reality and accept ourselves. Its very clear that many people in secular society reject reality and attempt to create a fantasy world for themselves.
(Yes, I know this isn't furthering rational discourse, but this is all the response that your nonsensical drivel is worth.)
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 6, 2013 at 5:39 pm
(May 5, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: The universe has no meaning in and of itself. An intelligent agent must assign meaning to its constituent parts and how they work together to make up the whole thing, and assign a reason for its existence and operation. Not to mention, the order of magnitude difference between the scale of the parts we know of. The universe itself has no meaning. You have made an existential choice, not one based on evidence or reason. As have I.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 6, 2013 at 6:28 pm
(May 6, 2013 at 5:39 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (May 5, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: The universe has no meaning in and of itself. An intelligent agent must assign meaning to its constituent parts and how they work together to make up the whole thing, and assign a reason for its existence and operation. Not to mention, the order of magnitude difference between the scale of the parts we know of. The universe itself has no meaning. You have made an existential choice, not one based on evidence or reason. As have I.
I reason that meaning exists only subjectively. As far as anybody can demonstrate, this is true.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm
(May 6, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Why did God design my body so that my G-spot is inside of my anus, if it was his intention that I not be sexually stimulated in that region? Why did he design the anus so that it is pleasurable for both parties, sexually? Nothing pleasant about shit and hemerroids. Maybe it's up your ass, surrounded by shit that's filled with harmful bacteria in a presumably tight inaccessible place so you don't mess with it.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Quote:ChadWooters Wrote: We need fresh ideas.
No. You people spout ideas all the time. What WE need are facts, or, as Robert G. Ingersoll put it so well a long time ago.....
Quote:We have heard talk enough. We have listened to all the drowsy, idealess, vapid sermons that we wish to hear. We have read your Bible and the works of your best minds. We have heard your prayers, your solemn groans and your reverential amens. All these amount to less than nothing. We want one fact. We beg at the doors of your churches for just one little fact. We pass our hats along your pews and under your pulpits and implore you for just one fact. We know all about your mouldy wonders and your stale miracles. We want a this year's fact. We ask only one. Give us one fact for charity. Your miracles are too ancient. The witnesses have been dead for nearly two thousand years.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm
(May 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Why did God design my body so that my G-spot is inside of my anus, if it was his intention that I not be sexually stimulated in that region? Why did he design the anus so that it is pleasurable for both parties, sexually? Nothing pleasant about shit and hemerroids. Maybe it's up your ass, surrounded by shit that's filled with harmful bacteria in a presumably tight inaccessible place so you don't mess with it.
That did not answer the question. Why create a sexual pleasure spot and make it safely accessible, if it was not intended to be accessed?
For that matter, why did God make it necessary to defecate in the first place? Why not make it so that our bodies could absorb all that we end up wasting, or make it so that waste could be disposed of in a cleaner, more efficient manner? Do I get to hear you explain how your intelligent designer made our digestive systems wasteful and inefficient even compared to other animals for a purpose? Is it vital to God's plan that humans bust out the dooks?
But, wait, you say, poop is necessary! It acts as a fertilizer! But, of course, this is by design too, and it didn't have to be. The only logical answer is that God has a shit fetish.
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 6:32 pm
(May 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Nothing pleasant about shit and hemerroids. Maybe it's up your ass, surrounded by shit that's filled with harmful bacteria in a presumably tight inaccessible place so you don't mess with it.
That did not answer the question. Why create a sexual pleasure spot and make it safely accessible, if it was not intended to be accessed?
For that matter, why did God make it necessary to defecate in the first place? Why not make it so that our bodies could absorb all that we end up wasting, or make it so that waste could be disposed of in a cleaner, more efficient manner? Do I get to hear you explain how your intelligent designer made our digestive systems wasteful and inefficient even compared to other animals for a purpose? Is it vital to God's plan that humans bust out the dooks?
But, wait, you say, poop is necessary! It acts as a fertilizer! But, of course, this is by design too, and it didn't have to be. The only logical answer is that God has a shit fetish. Why "run a sewer system through a recreational area"?
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 9:32 pm
(May 7, 2013 at 6:32 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why "run a sewer system through a recreational area"?
Intelligent design!
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RE: What is the Purpose?
May 7, 2013 at 10:10 pm
There's nothing intelligent about shoving things in your ass.
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