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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 1, 2013 at 1:06 am by ReasonableRuben.)
"I know what you are thinking about,' said Tweedledum: 'but it isn't so, nohow.'
'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." ~Tweedledum and Tweedledee discussing the finer points of logic
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 1:35 am
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Welcome Reuben. I should explain to everyone else that we are in an exchange program in which each of us is visiting the other's website. So far I have not been condemned or banned, and by far I have gotten more friendliness than resentment.
Whether you want to do this here or not is entirely up to you since this is your introduction thread. But I'd be curious if you have any other aspirations for your time here than philosophy talk and getting to know the natives.  I can vouch for your not being a missionary.  I truly hope you enjoy your visit. There are many good and learned philosophizers here. Apo might be both the most brilliant and the best read, but be careful. She is like a cat. She may let you pet her one moment but scratch your eyes out the next. "Doesn't suffer fools lightly" comes to mind when it comes to that one - but no pressure.  Chad is one of our more intellectually inclined theists and a Swedenborgian to boot.
There are some who will want to pull your wings off just to see what happens, so it is best not to expect a certain standard of manners. When attacked it will be no good to cry for justice. The best thing is just to say "you sir are a lout and of no interest to me, now shove off". It is best to say it in a firm voice while staring their avatar directly in the eye. If you find yourself cornered in a scene reminiscent of "Lord of the Flies", it is best to remind yourself that you are still safely in your study and in no real peril. Not everyone on this planet will love or care for you, so .. how to put this delicately? .. piss on them.
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 1:37 am
Whew, whateverist, you're a tough act to follow.
I'll just say welcome, and leave it at that for now.
Welcome!
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 2:03 am
@whateverist: Cthulhu Dreaming is right. That was both helpful and gave me lolz at the same time.
If I'm going to be super honest with myself and others such as yourself, I'd have to say that I have certain insecurities that draw me to places such as ReasonableFaith forums and here. I desperately want people to like me. I want my word to mean something to them. I want to be respected... and so I will conduct myself in such a way as I perceive I ought to act in order to gain respect. Then, perhaps, fruitful dialogue will come much easier.
In some sense it's an intellectual game. In another sense, my world-view arrests this thought and reminds me, "these are real people with souls."
In one sense I am close-minded; at least insofar as it is true that I very much doubt that my views on fundamental theistic concepts will change. In another sense, I'd like to consider myself as being open-minded, having recently come to accept the theory of evolution as an adequate explanation of cosmic and biological complexity.(though I hold this belief loosely as I'm basically taking "modern science's" word for it)
This is some of the psychology that drives me.
May I also commend you, whateverist, as a proper and decent chap. 
"I know what you are thinking about,' said Tweedledum: 'but it isn't so, nohow.'
'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." ~Tweedledum and Tweedledee discussing the finer points of logic
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 4:15 am
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(June 1, 2013 at 1:01 am)ReasonableRuben Wrote: Those are very kind words indeed! I hope I can muster some sticktoitiveness with this site.
Ehh, they were more like hopeful words than kind ones. I'm hoping for that too We're down Tacky, and it's a wound that's hurt for a long time.
Quote:My intellectual work ethic waxes and wanes, so I tend to take long breaks from challenging dialogue. I'll see how I go.
All of my ethics have extremely low tides and incredibly high tides, with little similar between them save that they're made of water, and they get tugged on by gravity.
Quote:Nice welcomes like yours always halp.  Not sure about "exceeding" expectations though. 
You're the lucky one... had I found this but five hours later, I'd be telling you how much you suck and that I hate your guts. Or maybe I would just steal your car.
Save your life....  Steal your car... both good options.
Psh... whateverist talking about the forum philosophers, and he ranks Chad before me? CHAD.
He knows NOTHING!
* Violet intentionally avoids analyzing that, because it's quite incorrect, and it would be a major distraction.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 4:22 am
(June 1, 2013 at 4:15 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: You're the lucky one... had I found this but five hours later, I'd be telling you how much you suck and that I hate your guts. Or maybe I would just steal your car.
Save your life.... Steal your car... both good options.
Psh... whateverist talking about the forum philosophers, and he ranks Chad before me? CHAD.
He knows NOTHING!
* Violet Lilly Blossom intentionally avoids analyzing that, because it's quite incorrect, and it would be a major distraction.
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"I know what you are thinking about,' said Tweedledum: 'but it isn't so, nohow.'
'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." ~Tweedledum and Tweedledee discussing the finer points of logic
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 3:04 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 4:15 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Psh... whateverist talking about the forum philosophers, and he ranks Chad before me? CHAD.
He knows NOTHING!
Now Violet, I clearly was giving Chad a nod in the category of theist philosophizer. I did not know you had become a theist. (Congratulations, which is the lucky cult?)
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Welcome aboard Rube.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Welcome.
You should be flattered that you have given Violet expectations. She normally couldn't care less about newcomers.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: ReasonableRuben
June 1, 2013 at 5:43 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 2:03 am)ReasonableRuben Wrote: If I'm going to be super honest with myself and others such as yourself, I'd have to say that I have certain insecurities that draw me to places such as ReasonableFaith forums and here. I desperately want people to like me. I want my word to mean something to them. I want to be respected... and so I will conduct myself in such a way as I perceive I ought to act in order to gain respect. Then, perhaps, fruitful dialogue will come much easier.
You might be able to make people like you, yes, but most likely you won't be able to make them like your religion.
I am one good example of that.
Welcome to the forum.
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