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Stuck on my door
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Stuck on my door
So, I got a Christian pamphlet stuck in my door today, and I thought to myself that I would take a look, if nothing for the fact that no one could accuse me of not trying to understand what the other side was all about. Plus, while all Christian arguments eventually fail in my eyes, I do enjoy the fact that some are more sophisticated than others, and I figured that since this is the message the printers want to spread, they'll bring their "A" game.

Here is a link to the pamphlet, and for copyright and brevity's sake, I will only quote some of the more precious gems within in their wisdom. See what you think for yourself. The whole thing seems to be aimed at someone that already accepts that god exists and that it is most likely the Christian god.


Quote:Although we cannot understand how, God said my sins and your sins were laid upon Jesus and He died in our place. He became our substitute. It is true. God cannot lie.

Quote:“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).

Whosoever includes you. Shall be saved means not maybe, nor can, but shall be saved.

Surely, you realize you are a sinner. Right now, wherever you are, repenting, lift your heart to God in prayer.

Quote:You say, “Surely, it cannot be that simple.” Yes, that simple! It is scriptural. It is God’s plan. My friend, believe on Jesus and receive Him as Savior today.

If His plan is not perfectly clear, read this tract over and over, without laying it down, until you understand it. Your soul is worth more than all the world.

Overall, I think my favorite thing about this is the used car salesmen presentation of the whole thing, and for some reason, this is what came to mind when I was done...


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#2
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Quote:Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of a car salesman.
— H L Mencken
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#3
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Reminds me of this:

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Right at the top of his page, we're reminded of what really matters. Quantity:

"1933 - 2013 : Over 561,000,000 Tracts Shipped in 112 Languages"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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This reminds me of around a year or so before when I became an atheist, when I was still trying to make sense of the Christian worldview, a friend of a friend approached me with 2 flyers and asked to talk to me. One of the flyers was about "How we know the Bible is true" and the other was "How we know God exists". I thought, hot damn, this is exactly what I need to hear! So I sat down and we talked. The Bible flyer was basically "We know the Bible is true because in the Bible it says so" restated in 10 different ways. The God flyer was basically "We know God exists because He said so", once again, restated in 10 different ways. I can only imagine the look of disappointment that must have been on my face.

Ultimately, this person did me a service though, in showing me the insanity of this point of view. I never got the chance to thank him.
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Quote:Although we cannot understand how, God said my sins and your sins were laid upon Jesus and He died in our place. He became our substitute. It is true. God cannot lie.

He can't? Well shit, looks like I'm converting back to Christianity.
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Goddamn, they're out in droves today. I just got "invited" to an "event" at a local theater by some JW's going door to door.

The weird thing was that if I had to judge by their mannerisms, and I didn't know that they were trying to save my eternal soul, I would have thought for sure that they were trying to get into my pants.
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I bet this is how they converted Kirk Cameron.
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(June 12, 2013 at 2:16 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Goddamn, they're out in droves today. I just got "invited" to an "event" at a local theater by some JW's going door to door.

The weird thing was that if I had to judge by their mannerisms, and I didn't know that they were trying to save my eternal soul, I would have thought for sure that they were trying to get into my pants.

Christian Orgies!
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Like you said, it would really only appeal to somebody that is already a believer. Making an appeal to authority be the sole means of conveying an argument is worthless when the opposing side doesn't consider the authority legitimate in the first place.
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