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If Atheism Is A Religion.....
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RE: If Atheism Is A Religion.....
(October 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
Quote:It is not unreasonable to think think that things not proven to exist do not exist.

You can "prove it" within yourself you can't "prove it with science" you're presupposing that God is something that God can be demonstrated that way but that is a mistaken assumption. You can only demonstrate the existence of physical objects and energy through that method and God is neither.

The only way to "prove" something is using the scientific method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

For a long time the world relied on "common sense" and what everyone knew or felt was true.
A lot of errors were made then. One of the biggest was the belief in gods



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#42
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(October 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The only way to "prove" something is using the scientific method.

That's just your own opinion so why should I take you an authority? Subjective evidence is a good form of evidence for yourself personally.


Quote:For a long time the world relied on "common sense" and what everyone knew or felt was true.
A lot of errors were made then. One of the biggest was the belief in gods

If we're talking about methodological naturalism then I'm behind that 100%. It's ideological naturalism which is taking it too far in the denial of the existence of a God/Creator. Confusedhock:
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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#43
RE: If Atheism Is A Religion.....
(October 7, 2013 at 2:08 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I've read plenty of first hand experience accounts. You could say they were hallucinating it if you want to presuppose material naturalism and consciousness as a secretion of the brain and all that business.

Right. And I could say that they aren't, if it was convenient to believe so. But what I cannot do is falsify or confirm any of those accounts. And neither can the people providing them, even when they're first hand. That's my point. When you cannot corroborate such things, then the listener may accept or reject the story on his or her own, and then biases come into play.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#44
RE: If Atheism Is A Religion.....
(October 7, 2013 at 11:51 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: Evidence can be provided though it is somewhat subjective.

If the very existence of your evidence is subjective, it's time to re-examine what your definition of 'evidence' is, because you've completely got it wrong.
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#45
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The definition of "evidence" for this type is "oh-I-so-want-my-bullshit-to-be-true."
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#46
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(October 6, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: WAIT WAIT HOLD THIS BUS!!
If athsims is a religion then how do I get to be a preacher ?
And if I do can I get a free house and comfortable pay check to preach atheism?
AKA Post here and occaisonally be all like THERE IS NO GOD!!
because I do that anyway

Actually - there is NO law that prevents YOU from opening a church of atheism if you want to. IF you could get someone to pay you to preach the LACK of a word - go ahead

THe problem is that true atheists - do not accept the need for listen to you - and support your cause. So you are unlikely to actually get many donations to support yourself

But Atheist have NO reason to support you - since they do not need to pray - which does not work anyway - and there remains nothing to pray to that actually exists.
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#47
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If atheism is a religion than I want my tax-exempt status and I'm going to start parking in those "Reserved for Clergy" spots at the hospital when I visit.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#48
RE: If Atheism Is A Religion.....
Atheism is surely no religion but we include every division you can find in the general population. There isn't an orthodoxy.

Among those of us who answer no to the do-you-believe-in-gods-question, you'll find: those who think the question makes no sense; those who don't care; those who know damn well what you're talking about and think you're nuts to ask; those who think religion is holding us back and should be eradicated; those who are neutral regarding what 'one ought to believe' but don't personally; and some who think gods have only a psychological, literary or poetic reality. We are one house, infinitely divisible, with just one life and self-determination for all.
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#49
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This is a denomination of atheism.

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Logo reminds me of a road winding its way up a hill towards a Cross at the top.
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#50
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Not a religion?
An "atheist church" is to start holding regular services in Scotland from next month in a bid to spread the word about the "free-thinking faith".

Must be part of Alain de Botton's Atheism 2.0 denomination
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