Lingvogeometry

[genkaus]

Serious question: Is this the most batshit insane thread ever?

Its a close call - with some of Koolay's.

[Cyberman]

Until we get the Timecube guy - I'm thinking yes.

[Monolens]

So, the obvious reason that laughing buddha denotes happiness is wrong and the real reason is that Buddists see the moon in his smile? That's delusional.

Do you know “Cui prodest”, which means “look for who is having benefit”?
Did you see any commercial on TV or bigboard, which is done for fun or without aim to have commercial benefits? So why do you think Buddhists are making big statues, temples and long lasting ceremonies? For fun? For happiness?
Bullshit. All you see around religion has aim to push something to stupid believers. Oil, candles, incense sticks, gold, wine, icons, books. Do you know that all these church goods are generating huge income for people behind church? Christian church makes 400% on every candle they sell.
So you really think they don’t have marketing strategy? They have. And as you can see they have best marketing ever. 80% of humanity believe that they act from the name of god and sell god inspired goods.
And their marketing strategy is so simple that even smart people as you are, cannot believe that everything they do is prepared advertisement show, which main aim is selling you goods that you don’t need.
Smile of Buddha is part of this show. How it works you can read above.

You mean this one: 眼睛
Its having even two stairs. Don’t you see that?

I see that Apo already hammered this one down. Waiting for you to say that the original pictogram "actually" is about the moon.

This is what is called double standards.
When I tell you that bull horns have similar shape with crescent, you say I’m insane as horns doesn’t fit with crescent point to point.
But if Chinese say that squared shape of modern hieroglyph is transformed from round shape of eye, you don’t claim that there is no similarity and round eye cannot be squared box.
And what actually did Apo hammered? I did not deny that modern stair-like hieroglyph is coming from ancient image of eye. I just said that it LOOKS LIKE stair.
And transformation of eye to stair is one more nice example of connection between this two concepts.
It is very interesting that same kind of transformation was taking place in Greek language.
Greek W (Omega), which also looks like stair, is coming from Phoenician “ayin” which means “eye” and looks like circle.



Remember that Jesus is called Alpha (bull) and Omega (eye)?
All this “coincidences” forcing smart person to think and find what is the reason of such similarity.

So why there are many symbols left by ancients which connect this two concepts?
Why moon is written together with scales what are the symbol of justice?

There aren't and it isn't.

Man, next time you will say that you are not genkaus. Even children know that scales are the symbol of justice, as justice is a balance of evidences. And in illustration I gave it is imaged with crescent above. Same as with cross and even Lily crucifix.

The 12x30 model of gregorian calendar does not fit here. The number of days in a year were not fixed and thus could not be used as standard for anything. Which means, the number 720 does not refer to and has not connection to having "360 days in a year".

Read carefully:
The oldest system, in many respects the basis of the classical one, is known from texts of about 1000 BCE. It divides an approximate solar year of 360 days into 12 lunar months of 27 (according to the early Vedic text Taittirīya Saṃhitā 4.4.10.1–3) or 28 (according to theAtharvaveda, the fourth of the Vedas, 19.7.1.) days.
And
When a new moon occurs before sunrise on a day, that day is said to be the first day of the lunar month. So it is evident that the end of the lunar month will coincide with a new moon. A lunar month has 29 or 30 days (according to the movement of the moon).
Extra Month, or adhika māsa (māsa = lunar month in this context) falls every 32.5 months. It is also known as puruśottama māsa, so as to give it a devotional name. Thus 12 Hindu mas (māsa) is equal to approximate 356 days, while solar year have 365 or 366 (in leap year) which create difference of 9 to 10 days, which is offset every 3rd year.

So you can see that 360 days cycle takes place in both explanations.

Artemis is the goddess of the hunt - first and foremost. Which is why she uses a bow and which is why she is associated with a lot of wild animals. That's the simple explanation.
Greeks had a bunch of other moon deities as well - Phoebe, Selene, Hecate. If the bow was supposed to be a subtle reference to the moon, then all the other lunar deities would be depicted with bows. They aren't, so, it isn't.

Why do you think that all lunar deities must have same symbol? There are enough objects to represent the moon via shape. I can predict that closer look to gods from your list will give symbols, that will correspond with crescent shape.

The difference is, nobody would've stopped Bruno from publishing his findings and getting worldwide acclaim for his findings in this day and age. And nobody is stopping you. So, go ahead. Publish your hare-brained notions. Get them peer-reviewed. Show everybody how intricate, innovative and accurate your mathematical modeling is and I'll happily back off. But as long as you are just making these crazy claims here, I'll just keep laughing.

I’m publishing. And have enough good references. Of course, have criticism. But it is ok. Every good theory has many critics. By receiving and analyzing opposite opinions, I can understand weak and strong points of theory.

Agree. But it is used only being wired to the hat. And that’s when the crescent comes up.

Only when it is wired incorrectly - as it is, in the picture you picked.

Yes, you are right. This sign is wired two ways. And both are correct according to pics given by google.



Do you know which wiring is original?

What are these pictures supposed to prove? I see no fishes here.

Dont see?
These pics prove that fish was associated with moon, as in one case fish is drawn between the star and crown and in another case between same objects, the crescent is drawn.

[Cyberman]

You know, that blank post is the most rational thing you've said so far.

I suppose I'd better get the Mod toolkit out and fix it for you.

[Monolens]

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[Monolens]

This would be an interesting speculation if not for the fact that it is completely divorced from reality. As the Wiktionary entry clearly indicates, the Chinese character mù, or eye, was derived from the original Old Chinese pictogram of an eye by turning it on its side and straightening the lines to form three boxes (respectively, white of the eye, iris/pupil, white again; see below). (And yes, I've seen actual historical examples of it.) You would have known that it was derived from the visual representation of an eye instead of a ladder if you were actually a scholar, a linguist, and someone who has actually studied Chinese, instead of what you are, which is a crank with an internet connection. Hell, if you'd even bothered to read the Wiktionary entry you cited you could have figured it out. You didn't figure that out, though, and instead graced us with a wad of shit you pulled from your ass.

Come on, I just said it looks like stair.
Don’t you think so?
Believe me, I have visited that Wiktionary page many times. It is very interesting example of symbol transformation, when curved and circle shaped eye comes squared. It demonstrates the wide range of possible shape transformations that could occur with any ancient symbol during its development and distribution.
As I said, the shape of hieroglyph “moon” also looks like stairs and has close development of shape.


Original bone script signs look like this:


Comparing original bone script letter for moon we can see nice evidence of Jesus moon origin.
Alpha comes from Phoenician script where it was meaning “bull”
Take a look how Phoenician “bull” copies Chinese “moon”. So next time when you write “a” letter, which arrives from “alpha”, think how close were your ancestry to Chinese and other human kinds.

And more interesting hieroglyph is Jesus (耶) consist of again stair-like hieroglyph which ta-da-da! means “ear, handle”and comes from bone script of ship form.

[Cyberman]

Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

[Monolens]

My last paper on subject:

Earthlings Speak Moon Language

As a bonus - lunar roots of most fortune objects:

[Exian]

I didn't read all ten pages of this, but based on the OP, you seem like a Jordan Maxwell fan, or possibly a Zecharia Sitchin fan.

Have you read anything by Noam Chomsky? He makes a good argument for recursion being the common thread among all languages- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion

Dan Everett is another linguist you might be interested in. He claims he found the only tribe whose language doesn't use recursion: the Piraha. Also what might be of interest to you, the Piraha don't have a creation myth or any religion to speak of. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Everett

[Monolens]

Thanx a lot for reply.
I have read Sitchin’s works, but due to being materialist, I find them more fantasy then real. His speculations are very common for Russian community, but I don’t take it serious.
Works of Mr. Chomsky are interesting, but they were made before Internet era, when it was unable to collect worldwide data available today.
Idea of recursion is not related to my study as I work with single roots, but not with structure of sentences.
My idea is close to main idea of glossematics, that similar phonetic structures name similar objects or phenomena across human languages. Analyzing it with computer I have found that there are some semantic characteristics, that are met more often than others. Visualization of those characteristics gave clearly seen object – the Moon.
Religious history of humanity has preserved enough symbols to understand that my idea is correct. Thinking of all religions except Islam as solar is most exciting mistake of humanity. I believe my studies will stop this delusion and give correct answer about an entity we all call god.
Anyway thank you for attention and suggestions. Please read this topic and you will find more arguments of what I compressed in small published paper.