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RE: Proving God Existence
October 24, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Ahh there see time is not infinite, as it has a beginning.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 2:03 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: After so long time, no one is able to refute this proof!!!
Common I though you are smarter than this
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 25, 2013 at 1:36 am
(October 24, 2013 at 2:03 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: After so long time, no one is able to refute this proof!!!
Common I though you are smarter than this
The argument is basically saying the universe can't come from nothing because this is illogical because we have never seen anything come from nothing.
But the alternative you're providing is even more illogical, a being that does exist outside of existence that has actions outside of time that take time and a being that also makes decisions outside of time.
Also with no proof that the being is singular and has done this on its own.
This is where the god of the gaps comes into play, instead of saying you don't know and trying to find out you just put god in there.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 25, 2013 at 1:53 am
Wait, wait wait wait...
Thanks to Kayenneh, we now have concrete evidence.
Just Click Here
Quote:“Hell, I even ate Jesus Christ,” God added. “That was a good meal.”
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-rev...:1:Default
Now bow down to your creator.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 1:28 am
(October 25, 2013 at 1:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: The argument is basically saying the universe can't come from nothing because this is illogical because we have never seen anything come from nothing. I'm sorry but you are wrong
It is not an argument it is a proof
and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Quote:But the alternative you're providing is even more illogical, a being that does exist outside of existence that has actions outside of time that take time and a being that also makes decisions outside of time.
Also with no proof that the being is singular and has done this on its own.
it depends on your definition of time
If you use my definition which is a relation between two events then it does make sense
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 1:36 am
(October 29, 2013 at 1:28 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (October 25, 2013 at 1:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: The argument is basically saying the universe can't come from nothing because this is illogical because we have never seen anything come from nothing. I'm sorry but you are wrong
It is not an argument it is a proof
and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Quote:But the alternative you're providing is even more illogical, a being that does exist outside of existence that has actions outside of time that take time and a being that also makes decisions outside of time.
Also with no proof that the being is singular and has done this on its own.
it depends on your definition of time
If you use my definition which is a relation between two events then it does make sense
You're a very silly person.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 2:49 am
(October 29, 2013 at 1:28 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (October 25, 2013 at 1:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: The argument is basically saying the universe can't come from nothing because this is illogical because we have never seen anything come from nothing. I'm sorry but you are wrong
It is not an argument it is a proof
and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Quote:But the alternative you're providing is even more illogical, a being that does exist outside of existence that has actions outside of time that take time and a being that also makes decisions outside of time.
Also with no proof that the being is singular and has done this on its own.
it depends on your definition of time
If you use my definition which is a relation between two events then it does make sense
It doesn't make sense in the slightest.
You say it is contradicting to logic to have something come from nothing.
But your alternative is MUCH more illogical on so many levels.
If you consider that something coming from nothing is illogical because no one has ever seen something come from nothing or made a solid scientific theory about something coming from nothing then this is the same situation for the alternative you're proposing.
No one has ever seen and no one has ever made a solid scientific theory relating to the following things-
1) Beings which exist outside of time, because no one has ever observed what happens outside of time and certainly no scientific theory has been proposed that states a being would exist outside of time.
2) Beings which exist outside of the physical universe.
3) Decisions and thought processes being made outside of time, since it takes time for thought processes to be made.
4) Decisions and thought processes being made with no physical brain making them.
5) If time is a relation between two events and god is just one singular event this would make him having a complex brain impossible since brains are made from several parts.
6) There's still no explanation from you as to how a being outside of time and space causes floods on earth and turns sticks into snakes.
By the way I'm not saying the universe did come from nothing I'm saying I don't know what happened.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 4:29 am
(October 24, 2013 at 2:03 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: After so long time, no one is able to refute this proof!!!
Common I though you are smarter than this
Luckily we harboured no such delusions about you, MS.
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 6:08 am
(October 29, 2013 at 1:28 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Anything from nothing except a god, right?
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RE: Proving God Existence
October 29, 2013 at 11:06 am
(October 29, 2013 at 6:08 am)Esquilax Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 1:28 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Anything from nothing except a god, right? I find this humorous as quantum physics is well defined and involves shit bursting in and out of existence constantly, from nothing.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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