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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Welcome, Tori!
So it wasn't hard at all? Many atheists here have told stories about deconversion being painful. If yours wasn't, what do you think was different for you?
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:05 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Welcome, Tori!
So it wasn't hard at all? Many atheists here have told stories about deconversion being painful. If yours wasn't, what do you think was different for you?
Did their deconversion happen all at once? Mine was a slow process that began a couple of years ago when I stopped going to church and stopped praying and reading the bible regularly. I found the bible stories and related arguments to be more and more absurd, many of the followers made me feel alienated just being around them and even the fear of hell that managed to hang on like an annoying little parasite wasn't as strong as I would make it out to be because I never went back to praying for forgiveness or reading my bible. I've done all but actually say the words until today.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:15 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 1:05 pm)ToriJ Wrote: Did their deconversion happen all at once? Some of them, but for many it seems to have been a drawn-out experience, complicated by family pressure.
I always ask about this because I was raised by atheists, so I have no understanding of what this experience is like.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:18 pm
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(November 5, 2013 at 11:03 am)cato123 Wrote: The crazies opt for E....
E) Assert that god cannot be immoral, regardless of behavior, by definition.
I think it's funny how doing this puts them in the uncomfortable spot of having to defend slavery, genocide, incest, etc.
(November 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm)Zazzy Wrote: So it wasn't hard at all? Many atheists here have told stories about deconversion being painful. If yours wasn't, what do you think was different for you?
My deconversion wasn't painful, I think because I realized that all religious beliefs are just silly superstitions. That, and I always hated going to church so I didn't feel any loss of community or anything. Quite a lot of the fellow Christians I knew growing up were horrible people, so I didn't feel any loss not dealing with them any more.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:23 pm
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(November 5, 2013 at 1:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (November 5, 2013 at 11:03 am)cato123 Wrote: The crazies opt for E....
E) Assert that god cannot be immoral, regardless of behavior, by definition.
I think it's funny how doing this puts them in the uncomfortable spot of having to defend slavery, genocide, incest, etc.
That how one could separate total losers from mere ordinary losers.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:27 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Zazzy Wrote: I always ask about this because I was raised by atheists, so I have no understanding of what this experience is like.
You know how you really have the runs and it takes little effort for it to come out when you made it to the toilet?
It's like that.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (November 5, 2013 at 1:05 pm)ToriJ Wrote: Did their deconversion happen all at once? Some of them, but for many it seems to have been a drawn-out experience, complicated by family pressure.
I always ask about this because I was raised by atheists, so I have no understanding of what this experience is like.
Imagine you are born into a mofia soldier family. But your conscience starts to nag you.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:32 pm
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Mine was a gradual one, the reason why it was painful was the fact I gave alot of trust to something that was not their. I felt betrayed by my emotions and of course angery at said religion for wasting so much my time and money. It is a wierd experience, but I also was a preachers kid so it was hard and I am still secret about it due to family pressures. However, with all the evil in the world and the suffering in my own life I could not make sense of any of it, I had to concede my point.
I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:36 pm
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I seriously envy the shit out of Zazzy right now.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:51 pm
I often wish I'd been raised atheist, but at least I have an understanding of how religious people think, having been brainwashed since birth and believing most of my life.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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