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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 1:58 pm
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Oh yeah, there's that.
I feel sorry for my youngest nephew, though. He'll likely be just as scarred as I was since both his parents are 'good Christians'. Yeah, good Christians who joke about castrating a person just because she identifies as a woman.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 3:12 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 1:58 pm)ToriJ Wrote: Oh yeah, there's that.
I feel sorry for my youngest nephew, though. He'll likely be just as scarred as I was since both his parents are 'good Christians'. Yeah, good Christians who joke about castrating a boy just because he identifies as a woman. You mean "she" then.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Old habits die hard.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 3:35 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 1:36 pm)ToriJ Wrote: I seriously envy the shit out of Zazzy right now. I'm starting to realize how lucky I am. The stories about religious parents and atheist children make my parental issues seem small.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 3:53 pm
(November 5, 2013 at 3:35 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (November 5, 2013 at 1:36 pm)ToriJ Wrote: I seriously envy the shit out of Zazzy right now. I'm starting to realize how lucky I am. The stories about religious parents and atheist children make my parental issues seem small.
I wonder how many stories are there about atheist parents and theist children...?
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 4:39 pm
"God" is a concept. I renounce that God exists in the natural, but I cannot renounce the concept of God. If I renounce the concept of God, then I have as much proven its existence.
No fear of hell have we who dare risk our very souls on the gamble that they may not even exist. That, and we have our Sunday mornings free again.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 4:52 pm
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(November 5, 2013 at 4:39 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: "God" is a concept. I renounce that God exists in the natural, but I cannot renounce the concept of God. If I renounce the concept of God, then I have as much proven its existence.
No fear of hell have we who dare risk our very souls on the gamble that they may not even exist. That, and we have our Sunday mornings free again.
Thanks for catching that. Hold on, let me make one minor adjustment.
Edit: I was going to change God to Yahweh, but the amount of time you have to edit has expired. Oh well. I think most understand what I'm saying.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 5:09 pm
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(November 5, 2013 at 1:51 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I often wish I'd been raised atheist, but at least I have an understanding of how religious people think, having been brainwashed since birth and believing most of my life. My feelings step along the same line, I was never even aware of the option to not believe until I was in middle school. And even then I was prompted to "witness" to those that didn't in my grade, and was told by ministers I would be sent to hell if I questioned god.
Zazzy I'm rather envious of your upbringing; no religious thought crime, no terrifying nightmares of hell and demons, and freedom to form your own values. As a father myself I'm going to do my utmost to ensure my daughter is spared from these terrible memories I have.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 5:26 pm
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(November 5, 2013 at 3:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I wonder how many stories are there about atheist parents and theist children...? My parents would be so disappointed. They always said I could believe whatever I wanted; they just wanted me to think carefully about anything I learned from religious people, and they did send me to boarding school that had chapel 5 times a week (it was the best one close by- and it was liberal Episcopalian). But they have since admitted that they were lying about it being OK if we got religion- it would have been heartbreaking to them. Some babysitter taught my niece to pray before a meal, and my sister thinks it's funny, and she and my mother had a spat about it because my mother won't have it at her dinner table.
My grandfather was NOT open-minded AT ALL about religion. From the time I was very small he told me to run away if anyone approached me in the name of Jesus.
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RE: I renounce God
November 5, 2013 at 5:38 pm
I honestly am glad I was born in a religious family, not saying they taught me compassion. But it did teach me at least in the parts of the country I am in unconditional love. One thing to note too, what you grew up does help make you who you are. Granted I never wanted the life I kind of have in terms of my biological mother abandoning me.
I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul.
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