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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 8:30 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome?
I certainly would! My wife's ovaries have hundreds of thousands of eggs and my testes produce billions of sperm. Why would I choose to have a defective matching when doing so would make a correct matching not occur?
I chose to have two daughters. I also chose to not have all of the others. I do not depend on fate to decide my progeny, nor do I force myself into celibacy.
I have actively chosen birth control, and conscientiously ignore all of the stupid religious claptrap.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 8:51 pm
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(November 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome?
I could crack wise, but it would be cruel to compare someone with Down's Syndrome to someone who intentionally suffers from a learning disability.
I don't get it.
Was that aimed at me?
(November 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: It is only because of humanist ideals infiltrating Christianity that Christians have changed their definition of 'human being' to include Jews, blacks, Asians and Native Americans in the last century...
What an ignorant and preposterous, unsubstantiated claim.
Care to defend it more formally? 1-on-1?
Or are you just doing your usual hit and run shtick?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 9:00 pm
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: I can tell you all the Christians here understand God's judgement.
GC We atheists are not subject to your fictitious god's judgement. The only ones born into sin are the ones who take the bait (apple in the garden) 
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 9:08 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 9:00 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: I can tell you all the Christians here understand God's judgement.
GC We atheists are not subject to your fictitious god's judgement. The only ones born into sin are the ones who take the bait (apple in the garden)
You CAN think God exists and nonetheless decide to ignore the potential consequences of His existence.
Plenty of folk in the bible did exactly that.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 9:37 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 9:08 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: You CAN think God exists and nonetheless decide to ignore the potential consequences of His existence.
Plenty of folk in the bible did exactly that. Deluded squared.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 9:57 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Brakeman Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome? I certainly would! That makes you a murderer.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 10:01 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 9:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Brakeman Wrote: I certainly would! That makes you a murderer.
No, even if your ridiculous framing was correct, it'd make him at home with murder, not an actual murderer, because that requires... you know, a murder.
Just so long as we're not throwing around baseless, emotionally manipulative invective instead of content, though! 
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 10:04 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 9:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Brakeman Wrote: I certainly would! That makes you a murderer. Shameless quote twisting aside, seriously I thought better of you wooters, no it most certainly doesn't.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 10:21 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Esquilax Wrote: No, even if your ridiculous framing was correct, it'd make him at home with murder, not an actual murderer, because that requires... you know, a murder. Touche.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 15, 2013 at 10:21 pm
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(November 15, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: I don't get it.
Was that aimed at me?
No, it was aimed at the other Lion IRC I quoted.
Quote:What an ignorant and preposterous, unsubstantiated claim.
Care to defend it more formally? 1-on-1?
Or are you just doing your usual hit and run shtick?
I'll be more than happy to substantiate it.
Jews: Targeted by Christians for 2,000 years. Frequently targets of murder, theft, rape. The subject of Christian pogroms and the German Holocaust, which was executed mostly by Christian Germans (who, of course, had a lot of other people they thought of as subhuman).
Blacks: 300 years of slavery at the hands of Christians plus another 100+ years of apartheid, also at the hands of Christians. Christians frequently portrayed blacks in the past, and to a certain extent continue to portray blacks today, as base, simian beasts.
Asians: Victims of Christian nations in many imperial wars of conquest and forced servitude. Thought of as inferior in intelligence to good Christian white men.
Native Americans: Hoo boy. Christian Spain started things off with a mass campaign of slavery, genocide and forced conversion of American natives from the moment they first reached the shores of the Western Hemisphere and it kept right on going through to the wars of eradication and theft by the Christian-dominated United States up until not very long ago.
As for a debate? It would be beneath me to accept it even if I had any interest. How amazingly hypocritical of you to call me out for an unsubstantiated claim after you made one and still continue to refuse to substantiate it. No. How about, instead, we play a game of Hide and Go Fuck Yourself.
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