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If there is no God, then, one may ask

Poll: Who governs the whole order of things on earth?
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If there is no God, then, one may ask
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RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
December 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm)DOS Wrote: Would be very interesting to hear the arguments of those who think it's a man who governs the whole order of things on earth and not God.

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December 10, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Who holds the spoon? What is it a tool for? Ultimately, there must be an unscooped scooper!!!!
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December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Quote:The question is not what man can or cannot. The question is - who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

No, the question is WHETHER anything governs human life and the order of things on earth.

Before you can ask these godless heathens Angel(no offence) who they think governs everything, you must first make the case THAT someone/thing governs everything.

Otherwise its like demanding an answer to the question of what colour the teapot on the moon is. One must first establish THAT there is a teapot on the moon.
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RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
December 10, 2013 at 3:12 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:
Quote:The question is not what man can or cannot. The question is - who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

No, the question is WHETHER anything governs human life and the order of things on earth.

Before you can ask these godless heathens Angel(no offence) who they think governs everything, you must first make the case THAT someone/thing governs everything.

Otherwise its like demanding an answer to the question of what colour the teapot on the moon is. One must first establish THAT there is a teapot on the moon.

And you call yourself a Theist?!!! Tsk tsk...Well put.
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RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
December 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:
Quote:The question is not what man can or cannot. The question is - who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

No, the question is WHETHER anything governs human life and the order of things on earth.
Your answer?
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December 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Jacob's answer would be God, since he is a Christian. My answer would be nature, but not in some sort of personified way.
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December 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Bring back your old avatar, cutie. I miss those pecs.
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December 10, 2013 at 3:45 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Jacob's answer would be God, since he is a Christian. My answer would be nature, but not in some sort of personified way.
They don't like the idea that nature governs nature. But they seem okay with God governing God. It's a fascinating anomaly.
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December 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm (This post was last modified: December 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm by Jacob(smooth).)
(December 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm)DOS Wrote:
(December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: No, the question is WHETHER anything governs human life and the order of things on earth.
Your answer?

No. To a given value of the word "govern". I work on the basis that God exists but I don't think he's down here directing traffic so to speak.
(December 10, 2013 at 3:12 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:
(December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: No, the question is WHETHER anything governs human life and the order of things on earth.

Before you can ask these godless heathens Angel(no offence) who they think governs everything, you must first make the case THAT someone/thing governs everything.

Otherwise its like demanding an answer to the question of what colour the teapot on the moon is. One must first establish THAT there is a teapot on the moon.

And you call yourself a Theist?!!! Tsk tsk...Well put.
Hey, how dare you impugn my theism?

I did call you Godless heathens! That should compensate for any appearance of rationality Wink
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December 10, 2013 at 5:49 pm
You and I are probably pretty close in our views.
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