One philosophical argument for existence of supernatural.
March 22, 2014 at 4:50 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2014 at 4:55 pm by Mystic.)
The argument basically comes down to:
1)In face of naturalism, our concept of ourselves and praise is not firmly grounded.
2) Without being firmly grounded, it takes a form of illusion as far as knowledge of ourselves and praise goes.
[what is meant by this premise, is that we don't know it being true, not that we know it's wrong]
3) However our knowledge of ourselves and praise is firmly grounded knowing it's not an illusion.
4) Therefore naturalism is not true.
When it comes to our own existence, we have a concept of the self. To me this concept of the self needs to backed up by an actual soul. There is a reason to this. We aren't merely an experience. We attach ourselves actions. Actions in the past, relationships we have, habits we take, attributes we take on, they all form part of the concept of who we are.
If we were merely an experience produced by the biological brain, then the past no longer is a part of who we are, things we've done shouldn't impact our concept of our self other than they did so because evolution favoured us having such a concept of ourself.
There is more to it, our sense of pride assumes praise and value exists. If naturalism was true, we can trace our sense of value when we first mind appeared and valued it's own existence to exist rather then to die. As for us, are roots would take a different form of praise with actions done in a community or tribe as we evolved.
At one point did subjective sense of praise turn into an objective sense of value and praise? Somewhere down the line in evolution, it wasn't perfectly objective for sure, from naturalism perspective, so how did it get to be an objective value? At one point in evolution did it go from having a sense of value to knowing there is an objective value or a sense of praise to knowing there is an objective praise value.
The same is true of our sense of selves. We wouldn't have a way of really knowing who we are objectively, it's more of a sensation and experience that we would have gotten as we evolved.
There would be nothing to back this oneness concept of ourselves we have, we simply have it, because evolution favoured us having it.
However, I believe we innately know objective praiseworthiness exists as well that our concept of our selves is built on some objective basis.
Us knowing objective praiseworthiness doesn't mean there is a universal sense or that we know exactly what that it is. It just means when we have a sense of praise, we do so thinking there is an objective value to that praise, even if we aren't aware of that exact value. The same would not be true if all we had was our subjective experience.
The same is true about knowing ourselves. That there is an objective existence to ourselves, outside our own very relative experience.
1)In face of naturalism, our concept of ourselves and praise is not firmly grounded.
2) Without being firmly grounded, it takes a form of illusion as far as knowledge of ourselves and praise goes.
[what is meant by this premise, is that we don't know it being true, not that we know it's wrong]
3) However our knowledge of ourselves and praise is firmly grounded knowing it's not an illusion.
4) Therefore naturalism is not true.
When it comes to our own existence, we have a concept of the self. To me this concept of the self needs to backed up by an actual soul. There is a reason to this. We aren't merely an experience. We attach ourselves actions. Actions in the past, relationships we have, habits we take, attributes we take on, they all form part of the concept of who we are.
If we were merely an experience produced by the biological brain, then the past no longer is a part of who we are, things we've done shouldn't impact our concept of our self other than they did so because evolution favoured us having such a concept of ourself.
There is more to it, our sense of pride assumes praise and value exists. If naturalism was true, we can trace our sense of value when we first mind appeared and valued it's own existence to exist rather then to die. As for us, are roots would take a different form of praise with actions done in a community or tribe as we evolved.
At one point did subjective sense of praise turn into an objective sense of value and praise? Somewhere down the line in evolution, it wasn't perfectly objective for sure, from naturalism perspective, so how did it get to be an objective value? At one point in evolution did it go from having a sense of value to knowing there is an objective value or a sense of praise to knowing there is an objective praise value.
The same is true of our sense of selves. We wouldn't have a way of really knowing who we are objectively, it's more of a sensation and experience that we would have gotten as we evolved.
There would be nothing to back this oneness concept of ourselves we have, we simply have it, because evolution favoured us having it.
However, I believe we innately know objective praiseworthiness exists as well that our concept of our selves is built on some objective basis.
Us knowing objective praiseworthiness doesn't mean there is a universal sense or that we know exactly what that it is. It just means when we have a sense of praise, we do so thinking there is an objective value to that praise, even if we aren't aware of that exact value. The same would not be true if all we had was our subjective experience.
The same is true about knowing ourselves. That there is an objective existence to ourselves, outside our own very relative experience.
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