God is timeless

[FreeTony]

When someone says god exists outside time I get a headache trying to work out what they mean!

It means thay have heard someone else say it and they thought it sounded intelligent.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

God died when the Babylonian Empire collapsed and its Emperor died. That's why no one has seen hide or hair of God since. He used to be a chatterbox but since then he's been as silent as a grain of sand.

[thoth240]

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Damn... then Dog is not the anti-god?
Damn!
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Have you read the Tower of Babel...man tried to build a tower to ascend to Heaven and God struck it down...since then, man has been at man's throat, squabbling and bickering and killing and while man expends his energy on discrediting and refuting and contradicting...he fails to direct his energy to expand his consciousness.

HEAven is in the HEAd and the path goes through the HEArt. Hell is in the heel. And that is exactly where the vast majority projects their consciousness from. The heel. Until people learn their purpose, they will continue to be manipulated in the realm of the lower 3 chakras, striving for subsistence, sex and status completely cut off from their higher centers of consciousness.

Dog....God.... As above so below...Sirius is the Dog Star, the Dog Days of Summer

For you unfortunate many, you continuously read and interpret the bible in literary form which is the 1st level of interpretation. There are 4 as per 'PARDES'
Peshat — "plain" ("simple") or the direct meaning.[1]
Remez — "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense.
Derash - from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") — the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
Sod - (pronounced with a long O as in 'bone') — "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.

You can continue to debunk and consume your energy in lies and contradictions. It is only your Self you are fooling.

[The Valkyrie]

Damn... then Dog is not the anti-god?
Damn!
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Have you read the Tower of Babel...man tried to build a tower to ascend to Heaven and God struck it down...since then, man has been at man's throat, squabbling and bickering and killing and while man expends his energy on discrediting and refuting and contradicting...he fails to direct his energy to expand his consciousness.

HEAven is in the HEAd and the path goes through the HEArt. Hell is in the heel. And that is exactly where the vast majority projects their consciousness from. The heel. Until people learn their purpose, they will continue to be manipulated in the realm of the lower 3 chakras, striving for subsistence, sex and status completely cut off from their higher centers of consciousness.

Dog....God.... As above so below...Sirius is the Dog Star, the Dog Days of Summer

For you unfortunate many, you continuously read and interpret the bible in literary form which is the 1st level of interpretation. There are 4 as per 'PARDES'
Peshat — "plain" ("simple") or the direct meaning.[1]
Remez — "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense.
Derash - from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") — the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
Sod - (pronounced with a long O as in 'bone') — "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.

You can continue to debunk and consume your energy in lies and contradictions. It is only your Self you are fooling.
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Word salad . . .

[Jovanian Teapot]

"God is timeless" is something Christians spout all the time. Along with "God is both inside and outside time"

What does it even mean? Whenever I've asked for clarification none is given, they just expect you to accept this with no explanation. I'm coming at this with a background in physics.

Time is very difficult to understand and as far as I'm aware no one really does, though plenty of work is being done to establish it. It could well be that time is just an illusion.

I just don't understand what they can possibly mean. Anyone clear it up, or am I thinking about it in too much depth and it's just pseudo-scientific garbage with no meaning at all?

As far as i have ever understood it, the claim is that since god is the creator of the universe, he existed before time (which is the justification for his existence "outside of time".) Essentially what i have taken this to mean is that in the most sophisticated sense, god is an nth dimensional being, where n=the highest number of currently known dimensions plus one, so that he is able to travel between and through any and all dimensions without penalty. I'm no physics buff so maybe you can help me out here; how exactly does 11dimensional M-theory work? Is this actually how other dimensions work? i am perfectly clueless about 11d motion.

Anyway, essentially what theologian had to account for was this: if god exists outside the currently known dimensions, how can he intervene in our lives? As they so often do, they took their signature course of action and just edited their claim; now they say that god existed outside of time to include the possibility that he could will himself into existence "inside of time".
Essentially what they mean is that God does not obey time, because he created it. Thus, you get "God is timeless"(because he does not adhere to any constraints of time) and "God is both inside and outside time"(meaning he can drift in and out of existence as he pleases.

Its all blind conjecture if you ask me,
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[Tonus]

Four levels of interpretation? So the bullshit only goes four levels deep?

[heathendegenerate]

God is timeless basically just speaks to his "eternal powers". Nothing confines jebus!

[thoth240]

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Word salad . . .
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As a matter of fact...it is!

This is a world of words! Words are sounds, sounds are energy and light! You know, the stuff cockroaches scurry away from

The Bible was written to measure time in order to know when it was time to sow and harvest. God is timeless with no beginning or end. Where the Bible steps in, is when time could be measured owing to the movements of the celestial bodies, namely, the 'synodic' cycle of the moon. 'Syn' where we get Synagogue and Mount Sinai....yup...astronomical moon cultism trumping judaism.

The Hebrew calendar measures time in 'halakim' which is 3 and 1/3 seconds.

18 halakim to a minute
1080 halakim to an hour
2160 halakim in two hours
25960 halakim in 24 hours

25960 years is also The Great Year - the time it takes the Earth to pass through one complete cycle of the entire zodiac. It takes 2160 years for the Earth to pass through 1 zodiac sign. 72 years to pass 1 degree of the required 30. How often does 72 show up in the Bible or Quran... don't the suicide bombers get to meet up with 72 virgins in heaven?

If you look at those numbers through numerology
18(1+8)=9
1080(1+8)=9
2160(2+1+6)=9

9 is a holy number, you have 9 holes and are holy whether you like it or not.

108 is also the amount of original elements found in the universe...hmmmmm....

Oh...Stonehenge is 360 degrees(circle) and 60 original stones
360x60= 21600 which is 10 x 2160...hmmmmmm....

Don't shoot the messen-JAH!

[ShaMan]

Simple...

"God" has no watch.

[Michael Schubert]

I just don't understand what they can possibly mean. Anyone clear it up, or am I thinking about it in too much depth and it's just pseudo-scientific garbage with no meaning at all?

It really is just that. Theistic religions are, for lack of a better term, a pocket of scientific ignorance. God is nothing that anyone discovered with the scientific method. It is nothing more than a social construction that humans have been inventing in their imaginations for these past few millenniums.