Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers

[Coffee Jesus]

Its apparent you have no idea what discrimination is. Discrimination is the recognizing and understanding a difference or perceived difference between one thing and another.

When you choose KFC over Chic-Fil-A you are discriminating.

Yeah, on the basis of their food quality, or for some the morality of their food, but not for what they do in the bedroom.

[Heywood]

Discrimination is the recognizing and understanding a difference or perceived difference between one thing and another.

When you choose KFC over Chic-Fil-A you are discriminating.

No, you are merely applying your own definition to the word to suit your own agenda. It is a typical apolgists tactic.

Negative Kitanetos, your definition of the word was the one that was invented specifically to suit an agenda. "Discrimination" meant what I said it meant long before it was borrowed to mean you say it means.

[Silver]

Negative Kitanetos, your definition of the word was the one that was invented specifically to suit an agenda.

Negative, Hey!

As Losty has graciously posted for your benefit:

Discrimination: treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit

[Heywood]

Its apparent you have no idea what discrimination is. Discrimination is the recognizing and understanding a difference or perceived difference between one thing and another.

When you choose KFC over Chic-Fil-A you are discriminating.

Yeah, on the basis of their food quality, or for some the morality of their food, but not for what they do in the bedroom.

Why shouldn't the government force you to buy Chic-Fil-A because their food is much better than KFC?

Outlawing any kind of discrimination can be rationalized and codified into law.....always at the expense of someone else's freedom. Government should be about preserving peoples freedom....not taking it away.

[Rampant.A.I.]

I doubt you'd feel the same about stores and restaurants with "No Whites, No Christians" policies.

If you want to open a restaurant that doesn't serve whites or Christians I think you should be free to do so.

And the only reason you can dismiss that so flippantly is you realize White Christians are the majority, and there will be plenty of other places for you to eat, and as such you don't care. It doesn't affect you in any meaningful way.

Which makes the earlier claims of "White slavery under the gay overlords" all the more laughable. Discrimination in the past affected blacks to the extent that they could not do something so simple as [i]drink from a public water fountain[/i/] in a supposedly "free" society, and a handicapped woman, by virtue of having been born with a darker skin complexion could not sit down in the first available seat on a bus. So the average white Christian crying "persecution" and "discrimination" rings hollow. It's equivalent to "I have to get up in the morning and go to work as a white Christian, and I feel my God-Given rights are being discriminated against because I can't sleep in until 8:30."

[Coffee Jesus]

Why shouldn't the government force you to buy Chic-Fil-A because their food is much better than KFC?

The purpose of a restuarant is to serve people the food they like, not to hold political opinions.

The purpose of an employee is to perform their job, not to follow your religion.

Outlawing any kind of discrimination can be rationalized and codified into law.....always at the expense of someone else's freedom. Government should be about preserving peoples freedom....not taking it away.

Outlawing discrimination can enforce freedom. By allowing bakers to refuse wedding cakes to gays, you allow them to deny the homosexual's freedom to choose their desired wedding cake.

[Faith No More]

When you go to a job interview and the job is given to someone else....guess what....you were discriminated against.

There is no freedom from discrimination. There is only freedom not to be discriminated against in a way that the government decides you should be free from. This "freedom" always comes at the expense of someone elses freedom.

Personally I believe the state should provide hospitals and emergency care and it should be a condition of employment that doctors who work there treat anyone who walks through the door.

However if someone wants to become a doctor and only treat mexicans why should we deny them the freedom to do that?

People do have the right not to be discriminated against for such things as race, gender, and religion as long as they are not pertinate to the task or service at hand. I mean, one should be allowed to not hire a black man as an actor if you are looking for someone to play the part of Ronald Reagan in a movie. Sexual orientation is one of these attributes for which people have a right not to be discriminated.

When you do something such as run a business or become a doctor, you are leaving the realm where individual freedoms reign and into a social contract of sorts, because offering goods and services is a social construct, not an individual one. If you wish to refrain from providing goods and services to certain people, that is your right, but only if you refrain from providing goods and services to all people.

You don't want to sell cakes to gay people? Then don't sell cakes.

[Ryantology]

The market is capable of dictating those conditions better than Ryantology....or some other crackpot in power who wants to tell everyone else how to behave....in my opinion.

No, I don't think anybody should have the right to tell anybody else how to behave, as long as employees have the same right of refusal as the employer.

Seriously....what gives you the right to tell Chic-Fil-A how to conduct business? If you can do that, why can't I dictate how you conduct your business if I come to power?. What If I decide that you should sell your labor to Walmart......would you happy with that decree?

What gives an employer the right to tell an employee he must deal with customers who practice lifestyles that don't agree with their values?

Having a free country means some people will do things you disagree with. Get over it.

If employees can't express their values without fear of losing their job, then we don't have a free country, by your definition of freedom.

[Coffee Jesus]

By the way, where are all these gay-hating ultra masculine bakers? Have they considered getting a different job?

It's not always that simple.
Some guys are homophobic, but still support sexual freedom. Other guys don't seem very homophobic, but being anti-gay is part of their whole I'm-a-Christian shtick, along with be anti-premarital sex, anti-divorce, anti-anal, etc. etc..

[Heywood]

When you go to a job interview and the job is given to someone else....guess what....you were discriminated against.

There is no freedom from discrimination. There is only freedom not to be discriminated against in a way that the government decides you should be free from. This "freedom" always comes at the expense of someone elses freedom.

Personally I believe the state should provide hospitals and emergency care and it should be a condition of employment that doctors who work there treat anyone who walks through the door.

However if someone wants to become a doctor and only treat mexicans why should we deny them the freedom to do that?

People do have the right not to be discriminated against for such things as race, gender, and religion as long as they are not pertinate to the task or service at hand. I mean, one should be allowed to not hire a black man as an actor if you are looking for someone to play the part of Ronald Reagan in a movie. Sexual orientation is one of these attributes for which people have a right not to be discriminated.

When you do something such as run a business or become a doctor, you are leaving the realm where individual freedoms reign and into a social contract of sorts, because offering goods and services is a social construct, not an individual one. If you wish to refrain from providing goods and services to certain people, that is your right, but only if you refrain from providing goods and services to all people.

You don't want to sell cakes to gay people? Then don't sell cakes.

It isn't a contract at all if you force the terms on one party. Contracts are something agreed upon by all parties involved. "Social Contract" is just a euphemism used by the left in place of governmental edict. It is a word designed to give legitimacy to their imposition of a particular world view. The south, prior to the Civil war, could have claimed a social contract justified slavery....but we all know imposed "Social Contracts" are an affront to individual liberty.

If you want to sell cakes to gay people....open up your own bakery. The government might stop you....but people like me will not.

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What gives an employer the right to tell an employee he must deal with customers who practice lifestyles that don't agree with their values?

If an employee doesn't like the conditions of employment they can quit. If the employee wants to decide who should be served and who shouldn't....let them open their own store. The government might stop you from opening your own store but people like me will not.