Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[Rampant.A.I.]

Rayaan, there was also a massive study just concluded which I will try to find the link for absolutely definitively showing there was no link between autism and vaccines. Anti-vaxxers don't have a leg to stand on.

Thank you. This lunacy needs to end.

Also, Psychoslice, have you been involved in a heavy exercise program lately? I ask because it's been shown to release LSD from past use stored in fat cells.

[psychoslice]

That's creepy, I have been shot by some nut, and I have also had a bad reaction to the Polio VaC, the only Vac I ever had in my life. I had epileptic fits for about 4 years, and I believe now that because of my schizophrenia, the Vac. could have caused that also, so you got to see how I feel about it, I might be too bias, I don't know.

Ever heard the phrase "correlation does not equal causation"? You have convinced yourself that the polio vaccine was the cause of symptoms you experienced later on in life. That's about as convincing as telling us that you didn't start eating lasagna until after you the shot and then explaining that the polio vaccine caused you to develop a liking for lasagna. If you can't demonstrate a connection between your mental illness and the polio vaccine, then you have no reason to tell us that it was the cause.

Well it did cause me to have fits for four years.

[Bad Writer]

Ever heard the phrase "correlation does not equal causation"? You have convinced yourself that the polio vaccine was the cause of symptoms you experienced later on in life. That's about as convincing as telling us that you didn't start eating lasagna until after you the shot and then explaining that the polio vaccine caused you to develop a liking for lasagna. If you can't demonstrate a connection between your mental illness and the polio vaccine, then you have no reason to tell us that it was the cause.

Well it did cause me to have fits for four years.

What did I just say? Can you please read the part about how you cannot possibly demonstrate that the polio vaccine was the cause of your fits? That seems to be the very important point that you keep missing throughout all of this.

[psychoslice]

Well it did cause me to have fits for four years.

What did I just say? Can you please read the part about how you cannot possibly demonstrate that the polio vaccine was the cause of your fits? That seems to be the very important point that you keep missing throughout all of this.

Can you answer this question, has any vaccines ever caused death or anything else such as fits to any child, a yes or no ?.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

What did I just say? Can you please read the part about how you cannot possibly demonstrate that the polio vaccine was the cause of your fits? That seems to be the very important point that you keep missing throughout all of this.

Can you answer this question, has any vaccines ever caused death or anything else such as fits to any child, a yes or no ?.

Without doing any research into a specific case I doubt he nor anyone else could point out a case where a vaccination definitely caused a reaction in someone.

But even if that were so, that would still not mean that taking a polio vaccination caused your fits. Did you ever speak to a doctor? Did s/he refer you for testing?

I understand your cynicism Alice. It can't be nice living with schizophrenia. But please also understand that correlation does not imply causation. I can't see a single documented and proven case where a polio vaccination has caused someone's mental illness.

[psychoslice]

Can you answer this question, has any vaccines ever caused death or anything else such as fits to any child, a yes or no ?.

Without doing any research into a specific case I doubt he nor anyone else could point out a case where a vaccination definitely caused a reaction in someone.

But even if that were so, that would still not mean that taking a polio vaccination caused your fits. Did you ever speak to a doctor? Did s/he refer you for testing?

I understand your cynicism Alice. It can't be nice living with schizophrenia. But please also understand that correlation does not imply causation. I can't see a single documented and proven case where a polio vaccination has caused someone's mental illness.

No I can't prove that the polio vac actually caused the fits, but its weird that just after the vaccination it all happened. You must understand how I feel, you take all that you believe about vaccinations from the info that you read, and that's probably from the FDA, or WHO, and of course they would a agree with what you want to hear.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Out of interest, was the polio vaccine the only vaccine you received? How old were you when you had it?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Without doing any research into a specific case I doubt he nor anyone else could point out a case where a vaccination definitely caused a reaction in someone.

But even if that were so, that would still not mean that taking a polio vaccination caused your fits. Did you ever speak to a doctor? Did s/he refer you for testing?

I understand your cynicism Alice. It can't be nice living with schizophrenia. But please also understand that correlation does not imply causation. I can't see a single documented and proven case where a polio vaccination has caused someone's mental illness.

No I can't prove that the polio vac actually caused the fits, but its weird that just after the vaccination it all happened. You must understand how I feel, you take all that you believe about vaccinations from the info that you read, and that's probably from the FDA, or WHO, and of course they would a agree with what you want to hear.

I'm British, the FDA has no authority here.

I take all my 'info' from research journals and good medical advice from GPs and experts in immunology.

I also take heed of the vast, overwhelming successes of vaccinations such as smallpox, MMR and, yes, polio, which would be eradicated in the world today had people not taken, and without any good reason or merit, to thinking it was for some reason unsafe.

[Bad Writer]

What did I just say? Can you please read the part about how you cannot possibly demonstrate that the polio vaccine was the cause of your fits? That seems to be the very important point that you keep missing throughout all of this.

Can you answer this question, has any vaccines ever caused death or anything else such as fits to any child, a yes or no ?.

Even if I could answer this, which I can't without further research, how does the first part part of the question, the one concerning "death-by-vaccination", even remotely apply to your situation? Psychoslice, people have died from going on a harmless run around the block. Does that mean we ignore all the benefits of running simply because that one person out of millions suffered ill effects?

[psychoslice]

Out of interest, was the polio vaccine the only vaccine you received? How old were you when you had it?

Sorry I just noticed your reply, yes it was the only Vac. I ever had thank god, and I was 10 years old.