The Long and the Short of it.

[Watson]

Materialism is usually regarded as a pretty ridiculous stand-point by any smart philosopher, theologian, or free-thinker, padraic. And with good reason, too.

[tackattack]

@padriac.. so do believe in a concept of the duality of good and evil? Also do you believe that we are all just matter and nothing more and the brain is just a collection of cells?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

so do believe in a concept of the duality of good and evil?

No.Moral relativism

Also do you believe that we are all just matter and nothing more and the brain is just a collection of cells?

Yes.

It is also my sincere belief that human being are merely animals with delusions of grandeur.Although of paramount importance to ourselves,we are of little use to the planet, doing far more harm than good.

[tavarish]

To add to that, we run around fucking things and start fights with each other over land. WE FIGHT OVER THE GROUND WE LIVE ON. We find every way possible in which to separate ourselves, then quarrel over it.

[Watson]

I'm reminded of a song I listened to one time "We fuck holes in the world, and fuck everybody else"

[Minimalist]

It is also my sincere belief that human being are merely animals with delusions of grandeur.

We like to think we've evolved and advanced because we can build a computer, fly an airplane, travel underwater, we can write a sonnet, paint a painting, compose an opera. But you know something? We're barely out of the jungle on this planet. Barely out of the fucking jungle. What we are, is semi-civilized beasts, with baseball caps and automatic weapons.

-- George Carlin

[fr0d0]

I certainly wouldn't cling to blatantly irrational reasoning such as the no empirical evidence joke -

That is an unnecessary ad homimen ---and where we differ at a fundamental level.

A Skeptic and materialist, I assert truth cannot be inferred from reason alone.I demand proof. To dismiss my position as 'a joke' is a typical apologist ad homimem.

That doesn't change the fact that it's clearly illogical to dismiss God because of lack of empirical evidence.

Ergo, my comment is not ad-hominem, it is very relevant.

If anyone presented me with a rational dismissal of any ideas I'd have to take that on and change - how could I not? I cannot deny what my brain understands to be true.

You give the lie to that claim in almost every post. From long observation I've concluded you have a limited capacity for either independent or critical thinking,instead relying on bloody minded dogmatism. It is your intransigent position which is the joke my friend.

This is an ad hominem. Totally unsubstantiated bullshit.

Long observation my ass. You're hurt.

[Minimalist]

That doesn't change the fact that it's clearly illogical to dismiss God because of lack of empirical evidence.

You assert that it is logical to believe in the illogical.

I'll wait for the tangible evidence. Give me a call when you find some.

[Caecilian]

Materialism is usually regarded as a pretty ridiculous stand-point by any smart philosopher, theologian, or free-thinker, padraic. And with good reason, too.

Completely wrong.

Contemporary Philosophy is predominately materialist. This is especially true of contemporary Anglo-American (as opposed to Continental) Philosophy. As it happens, there was a recent poll of philosophers organized by philpapers.org. The most relevant item was this:

Mind: physicalism or non-physicalism?
Accept or lean toward: physicalism 526 / 931 (56.4%)
Accept or lean toward: non-physicalism 252 / 931 (27%)
Other 153 / 931 (16.4%)

[bozo]

This thread is low on " Short "!