Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[psychoslice]

Where did you learn that? We'd really like to know.

You probably haven't head about these things, because you believe in the very people who don't want this to be publically known, you have to do your own investigation, and not just believe what you are told , that's why you have a brain.

[Bad Writer]

Where did you learn that? We'd really like to know.

You probably haven't head about these things, because you believe in the very people who don't want this to be publically known, you have to do your own investigation, and not just believe what you are told , that's why you have a brain.

Oh, I have to investigate your claim? Do you understand what shifting the burden of proof means? No? Maybe you should look it up. After all, that's why you have a brain.

[psychoslice]

You probably haven't head about these things, because you believe in the very people who don't want this to be publically known, you have to do your own investigation, and not just believe what you are told , that's why you have a brain.

Oh, I have to investigate your claim? Do you understand what shifting the burden of proof means? No? Maybe you should look it up.

So, your the king of debating, wow, always right aren't you ?.

[TaraJo]

You are a numb one aren't you, having fits caused probably by Encephalitis, is a symptom of the Polio Vaccine, and also other Vaccines. Now if poison ivy was a symptom of polio then it would have been added to the adverse affects list caused by Polio Vaccine but its no, now don't be so silly.

Yes, there can be side effects to vaccines. They're usually minor and short lived and rare. On an even more rare occasion, they can be more serious, especially with people who have certain health conditions, but, like I said, that's rare enough that unless your doctor says otherwise, you can probably safely assume that you're safe.

On the other hand,the side-effect of not getting vaccinated, especially in large groups, winds up that you and the people around you tend to come down with a disease that you could have been easily vaccinated against. Not to mention, some of those diseases can have further, nasty side-effects later on down the road; ever heard of shingles, for example?

[psychoslice]

You are a numb one aren't you, having fits caused probably by Encephalitis, is a symptom of the Polio Vaccine, and also other Vaccines. Now if poison ivy was a symptom of polio then it would have been added to the adverse affects list caused by Polio Vaccine but its no, now don't be so silly.

Yes, there can be side effects to vaccines. They're usually minor and short lived and rare. On an even more rare occasion, they can be more serious, especially with people who have certain health conditions, but, like I said, that's rare enough that unless your doctor says otherwise, you can probably safely assume that you're safe.

On the other hand,the side-effect of not getting vaccinated, especially in large groups, winds up that you and the people around you tend to come down with a disease that you could have been easily vaccinated against. Not to mention, some of those diseases can have further, nasty side-effects later on down the road; ever heard of shingles, for example?

The only thing I want to say is, where on earth do you get your figures from, there are many people suffering from side affect of vaccines.

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Vaccines include the following ingredients:
•Acetone (solvent used in fingernail polish remover)
•Aluminum hydroxide
•Aluminum phosphate
•Aluminum sulfate
•Amphotericin B
•Animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
•Dog kidney, monkey kidney
•Chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
•Calf (bovine) serum
•Betapropiolactone
•Fetal bovine serum
•Formaldehyde
•Formalin
•Gelatin
•Glycerol
•Human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
•Hydrolyzed gelatin
•Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
•Neomycin (antibiotic)
•Neomycin sulfate
•Phenol red indicator
•phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
•potassium diphosphate
•potassium monophosphate
•polymyxin B
•polysorbate 20
•polysorbate 80
•porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
•residual MRC5 proteins
•sorbitol
•sucrose
•streptomycin (antibiotic)
•thimerosal (mercury)
•tri(n)butylphosphate (neurotoxin)
•VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
•Washed sheep red blood cells (2)

Now tell me, would you want any of these ingredient injected into you, I know I don't.

[rexbeccarox]

Psycho, cite your sources. Show us the "many people" who are suffering side-effects of vaccines. I want to see real, medical proof; not anecdotes, not assumptions. I want to see reports from medical doctors or peer-reviewed papers, or even abstracts will do, from scientific journals. If vaccines are as dangerous as you want us to believe, you should have no problem providing these things.

[KichigaiNeko]

He has none rexbecca

[TaraJo]

Psycho, cite your sources. Show us the "many people" who are suffering side-effects of vaccines. I want to see real, medical proof; not anecdotes, not assumptions. I want to see reports from medical doctors or peer-reviewed papers, or even abstracts will do, from scientific journals. If vaccines are as dangerous as you want us to believe, you should have no problem providing these things.

Yep. This. In all honesty, it's pretty damn easy to cite sources who can give evidence of the harm of not getting vaccines. Observe.

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/...s-outbreak

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-child-d...d=23323301

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...vaccinated

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013...776327.htm

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenti...6650422913

These are multiple, well documented cases of people who refused vaccines who suffered from serious, often fatal, diseases, BECAUSE of their decision not to vaccinate. You have yet to show me a single source or document that has shown someone who has had a negative reaction specifically because of their decision to vaccinate. If you can provide me credible sources behind the things you're saying, I'm more than willing to listen, but, in all honesty, everything I've seen from you looks about like the pseudo science from place like Natural News.

[Bad Writer]

"Vaccines include the following ingredients..."
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Oh! Scary, long science-y words! It's the ol' I-don't-understand-what-they-are-or-what-they-do-so-I-know-better-than-my-doctor-who-is-a-trained-and-knowledgable-physician maneuver.

[FatAndFaithless]

By Psycho's logic, sandwiches are now a plot by Big Farma.