Thunderf00t vs. Feminism

[MJ the Skeptical]

Yeah, I unsubscribed from thunderfoot specifically because his obsession with trying to spin feminism into some kind of agenda began to overshadow the reasons I subscribed to him in the first place. It just got sort of ridiculous, watching a grown man trying to pretend that the bad elements of a specific group were the only elements of that group.

Well, his channel motto is "seeing through delusion" and he considers feminism deluded so it's a target of his; like religion and pseudoscience. I mean, if you look at the feminist rhetoric, it is very obscene, just some of the misandrist things they'll say and present, like the #KillAllMen for example. They also regularly try to conflate gender equality with feminism and will label you a feminist if you're for gender equality even if you don't want the label, and even though there is a better more inclusive term for gender equality, egalitarian. But if you use that label, you immediately get crucified? why is that? because they're dogmatic about their Neo-feminist movement like religious people.

I would agree with you that we should not bucket people in with each other, but it's kind of like taking the Christian label, there's a whole bunch of baggage attached to it, and it implies something about one's worldview. I think it shows Misandry, we don't need to be gender inclusive int the 21st century other than in countries that actually oppress women. I mean, the ones representing feminism out there have some disgusting thoughts, I don't tend to run into mild feminism. And the thing that he doesn't really talk about that sickens me most about feminists is that they're more interested with first world problems than helping women who are actually oppressed by real patriarchal systems in other countries, just about themselves and Murica.

What feminism is in the west now in days is more akin to Neo-feminism than first wave feminism that broke barriers, when it's now women who seem to have more rights in the western world.

[The Grand Nudger]

Metroid....the old school NES side scroller? Samus, pew pew, rolling around in a little ball and bombing the fuck out of shit...... Metroid?

(F&F those fucking aliens were evil.... Of course it would be you, wouldn't it, bacon hating traitor ! Where are my goddamned stamps....)

[LastPoet]

Metroid....the old school NES side scroller? Samus, pew pew, rolling around in a little ball and bombing the fuck out of shit...... Metroid?

(F&F those fucking aliens were evil.... Of course it would be you, wouldn't it, bacon hating traitor ! Where are my goddamned stamps....)

Samus was a girl and the metroids were't really evil, if you played the sequels. Ahhh, old times

[The Grand Nudger]

I never played the sequels, but wasn't Samus a girl in the original? Memory can be a bitch, it was the 80's....am I mis-remembering this?

[Mudhammam]

Feminism means that my girlfriend gets to pump her own gas when I'm in the car, right? Yeah I support that.

[MJ the Skeptical]

Feminism means that my girlfriend gets to pump her own gas when I'm in the car, right? Yeah I support that.

Saudi Arabia could actually use Feminism.

[LastPoet]

I never played the sequels, but wasn't Samus a girl in the original? Memory can be a bitch, it was the 80's....am I mis-remembering this?

Yep, but on the sequels, one would find out that the metroids were used as a weapon from some nefarious characters.

[The Grand Nudger]

The plot thickens.........still don't care, nuke em from orbit.

They tried to kill Samus and I LP!

So, is the idea here that Metroid is sexist? Is that the issue of contention (all I got to in her videos was stuff like gta, hitman, assassins creed.....pretty cut and dry examples)?

[The Grand Nudger]

There we go, thanks for the direction. Plugged that shit into google and found interviews and whatnot. So, it would appear that the Metroid series did indeed turn into a giant sexist joke. So much so that it made a cracked article that had me laughing my ass off (and apparently if I'd been better at video games Samus would have taken off more than just her helmet in the original). I suppose that I just didn't find it all that surprising that Samus was a chick - I was raised by my mother, aunts, and grandmother. The notion that a female could be the hero under the costume didn't seem odd to me then any more than it does now. I suppose even the "wow" factor could be construed as sexist, though.

[Alex K]

I mean, if you look at the feminist rhetoric, it is very obscene, just some of the misandrist things they'll say and present, like the #KillAllMen for example.[...] when it's now women who seem to have more rights in the western world.

*Snortle* Are you for real?

You don't get to define what feminism is. Sure, you can pick some strange positions (#KillAllMen, srsly?) and decide for yourself that that's your definition of feminism.
However, you kind of knock yourself out of the conversation with this one, because it's not a definiton that most feminists would accept.
I could just as well define that feminism is Hitler, and then prove that it's evil. That's not giving you any new insights.

Also, sure, women have all the rights in the western world, and the poor men are so marginalized, there are barely any left!