FERGUSON

[A Theist]

I see. A bunch of protestors were walking down the street, peacefully protesting, minding their own business, when a bunch of cops, without provocation, just started wailing away on them for no reason at all, whatsoever. Uh huh.

Just one detail. The police had an arbitrary "end time" set to the protest "after sundown". The use of the word "sundown" was one of many public relations blunders as this word, perhaps you might be unaware, is a very racially charged one.

Certain towns in America came to be known as "sundown towns". There used to be, during the days of segregation, a sign posted warning minorities, "N-----, don't be here after sundown". Any African American not heeding that sign and walking about the town after sundown was risking his/her life.

When the still peaceful demonstrations didn't end at at the arbitrary time set by the police, then the police began wailing on them.

Perhaps the reason why the police had an arbitrary "end time" set to the protest "after sundown" was because they feared the looters and rioters would return after dark and mingle in with the protestors. That seems far more likely than buying into the racist conspiracy narrative.

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I see. A bunch of protestors were walking down the street, peacefully protesting, minding their own business, when a bunch of cops, without provocation, just started wailing away on them for no reason at all, whatsoever. Uh huh.

Oh not without reason, Adolf. They were black. Who needs more of a reason than that?

Must bring back happy memories of Kristallnacht to you.

BTW, I see where it was announced that Alois Brunner died. My condolences on your loss.

Mr. David Duke Min, the closet racist. You're one big hypocrite. You throw around more racial slurs than anybody on this forum. Attend any cross burnings lately?

BTW, what are your thoughts about Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Allen West, and Dr. Ben Carson?

[simplemoss]

This is proof officer Wilson was lying about the events, he said brown ran 30 feet away then turned around and "charged" 10 ft back. Yet the body "magically" was discovered 148 ft away from the squad car whatever happened that day u can be sure Wilson is lying about it.

And the fact that first year law student could indict this man but the prosecutor didn't is proof of racism bigotry and brutality in the state of Missouri

[Brian37]

This is proof officer Wilson was lying about the events, he said brown ran 30 feet away then turned around and "charged" 10 ft back. Yet the body "magically" was discovered 148 ft away from the squad car whatever happened that day u can be sure Wilson is lying about it.

And the fact that first year law student could indict this man but the prosecutor didn't is proof of racism bigotry and brutality in the state of Missouri

I am not going to go as far as saying Wilson was intentionally lying. I do think he is full of shit, if he says he was afraid. No sane person who is supposedly trained to asses danger is going to verbally or physically confront someone while at a tactical disadvantage. Maybe you can argue he was afraid after the struggle started, but lying or simply delusional, he could not have been afraid when he first pulled up.

REGARDLESS the system is flawed and it still boils down to humans and flawed perception. If one wants to argue Wilson's fear, it still would not mean that his view of reality during the moment was accurate.

The same flawed perceptions cause people to create gods, see butterflies in inkblots, images in toast. ECT ECT ECT. Human's flawed perceptions are also why Palestine and Israel cannot find solutions to peace which both claim they want.

NOW lets establish some common ground.

1. We all want cops to make it home safely.

2. We do not think criminals should get away with whatever they want.

3. No one likes race being the issue.


So why does race still persist as an issue? Not because all who side with Wilson are racists. But because there IS a systemic willful ignorance or unintentional unawareness that blacks ON AVERAGE are judged more harshly while innocent or guilty.

Blacks do not want to support lawlessness or crime. Blacks do not hate all cops. Blacks do not want welfare. Blacks do not want special rights or a free ride. I am 48 years old. Yes race religions HAS gotten better by comparison to when I was a kid.

So why does it seem to some that NFL players or Brown's parents SEEM to be supporting the idea of no accountability? It seems to some that way because of their refusal to stop judging and listen. If it were as simple as "blame blame blame", the ongoing race problem would have ended a long time ago.

Now lets do a thought experiment here.

"Wilson is innocent" ok, lets run with that for argument's sake.
"You were not there don't judge him", again, ok lets run with that for a second.

The narrative of "innocent" now that the trial is over puts this officer in the position of leaving his job because he now has to fear for his own safety, and can work without risking the safety of the other officers. And on top that is constantly going to have to look over his shoulders and wonder what someone thinks of him, or wonder what someone might do to him.


THINK ABOUT THAT AND LET IT SOAK IN. BECAUSE the judgment of blacks that has been going on forever, is the exact same feeling you are feeling in support of Wilson.

BLACKS ON AVERAGE are judged more harshly by society regardless of innocence or guilt.

Now if everyone wants this to stop. Instead of judging Brown's parents, maybe you should extend the same ear to them that you say Wilson should get. Do not over simplify it with "he shouldn't have resisted".

i was high and drunk one night when I went out and smashed cars with my "friends". The damage made local newspapers. I had a party in my basement with pot and under age drinking and a girl got beat up that night. I helped some guys steal pot from a guy's back yard. I assaulted a cop once myself. I had a full sized replica model cap gun, playing with it, cop showed up, drew his gun on me, I did not end up dead.

If cops had shown up to those events, my mom would have let me rot in jail, she still would visit me and love me. But even with that neither she or I ever had to worry about injury or death by cop.

NOW if everyone is going to say no one wants this AND NO ONE DOES. Then stop shouting 'BLAME" and stop repeating the same stupid crap of sticking your fingers in your ears because it makes you uncomfortable to face an ugly truth.

[Bad Wolf]

Are you really equivating the dangers of having the entire black community baying for your blood, with being black? That is just absurd

[Thumpalumpacus]

148 feet with a pistol? Pretty good shooting...or, as the video suggests...the cops were and still are...full of shit.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/20...tail=email

For 104 days, the police have lied and said Mike Brown was killed 35 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV. It was actually 148 feet.

This distance is essential to the defense and how Darren Wilson must demonstrate that he "reasonably feared for his safety." At the point in which Mike Brown ran half a football field away, how reasonable is it for an armed officer to fear anyone?

On the afternoon of August 9, 2014, Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Mike Brown, an unarmed teenager, in Ferguson, Missouri. Below is the first video filmed from Canfield Drive, where the shooting occurred, showing the exact measurement between where Darren Wilson's SUV was parked and Mike Brown died. After that, we methodically debunk the lie that Mike Brown was killed in close proximity to Darren Wilson's SUV.

Oh, come now. What's a few feet when there's a dead black boy to account for?

[Minimalist]

BTW, what are your thoughts about Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Allen West, and Dr. Ben Carson?

Republicunt morons....just like you, Adolf.

I notice you had nothing to say about your hero Wilson and his super "shooting."

Why is that I wonder? Could it be that you, like him, are full of shit, too?

[FatAndFaithless]

"Dr." Ben Carson is a creationist to boot, the hell do you think we view him?

[Minimalist]

Jon Stewart rips FOX a new asshole for their bullshit.

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[Heywood]

This is proof officer Wilson was lying about the events, he said brown ran 30 feet away then turned around and "charged" 10 ft back. Yet the body "magically" was discovered 148 ft away from the squad car whatever happened that day u can be sure Wilson is lying about it.

And the fact that first year law student could indict this man but the prosecutor didn't is proof of racism bigotry and brutality in the state of Missouri

I read it was 153 feet away from the squad car. But the thing you need to realize is Wilson was not in the squad car when he shot Brown. Wilson was outside the squad car. Since Wilson was outside the squad car his distance from Brown is not the same distance as it would have been in Wilson were inside the squad car. Wilson could have moved away from his squad car and closer to Brown or Wilson could could have moved away from his squad car and further away from Brown. The location of the spent shell casings would.

Really if you want to determine about how far away Wilson was from Brown, you have to look at the location of the spent shell casings from Wilson's gun and not the location of the squad car. The location of the sqaud car in relation to Brown's body doesn't really tell us much how far away Wilson and Brown were from each other when Brown died.

[Minimalist]

I wonder if they played this for the Grand Jury?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-...n-killing/

Audio recording allegedly captures at least 10 shots fired in Michael Brown killing

Probably not. It would fuckup the white wash.