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The City of Ferguson Has Decided
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The City of Ferguson Has Decided
that not beating the shit out of people is simply too expensive.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/justice-depar...t-ferguson

Quote:The Department of Justice is mulling legal action against the city of Ferguson, Missouri, after the city council moved to make several major revisions to a proposed federal consent decree, changes that could save the city money but also appear to sidestep efforts to bring policing in the city in line with the Constitution.

Far better to piss money away on hopeless law suits, right guys?

Quote:Yet Tuesday’s vote to restructure major parts of the 131-page consent decree may very well trigger such a lawsuit, a costly endeavor that could plunge the city into financial chaos.


This is not about money.  It's about whining cops and the politicians who kiss their asses.
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#2
RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
Yep, well this is what 30 years of corporate welfare has done.

I think cops should be able to make it home after their shifts in one piece. But hard to train them not to shoot first when they don't get proper training or long term repetition of training, and then have to go onto the streets without the proper equipment and short on staff.

Combine that with an armed public, long term they are going to default to shoot first.

It shouldn't be society vs cops or cops vs society, but it is because our fucking rich and GOP cut funding to everything. And they also have a corporate death lobby protecting our flooded market of guns.
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
I'm shocked, absolutely shocked.
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
(February 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think cops should be able to make it home after their shifts in one piece.

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-dangerous-jobs/

So should everyone and cops are way down at 14th place among the most dangerous jobs in the country.

But there are real problems and pretending there is a War on Cops is not helping.

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/...-be-killed

Quote:American Cops are 300 Percent More Likely to Kill Themselves Than Be Killed by Someone Else
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
Here is a list of all the towns/cities/'burbs just in St. Loius County Missouri:

Affton, Ballwin, Bel-Nor, Bel-Ridge, Bella Villa, Bellefontaine Neighbors, Bellerive, Berkeley, Beverley Hills, Black Jack, Breckenridge Hills, Brentwood, Bridgeton, Calverton Park, Champ, Charlack, Chesterfield, Clarkson Valley, Clayton, Cool Valley, Country Club Hills, Crestwood, Country Life Acres, Creve Coeur, Crystal Lake Park, Dellwood, Des Peres, Edmundson, Ellisville, Eureka, Ferguson, Fenton, Flordell Hills, Florissant, Frontenac, Glen Echo Park, Glendale, Grantwood Village, Greendale, Green Park, Hanley Hills, Hazelwood, Hillsdale, Huntleigh, Kinloch, Kirkwood, Jennings, Ladue, Lakeshire, Mackenzie, Manchester, Maplewood, Marlborough, Maryland Heights, Mehlville, Moline Acres, Normandy, Northwoods, Norwood Court, Oakland, Olivette, Overland, Pacific, Pagedale, Pasadena Hills, Pasadena Park, Pine Lawn, Richmond Heights, Riverview, Rock Hill, St. Ann, St. John, Shrewsbury, Sunset Hills, Spanish Lake, Sycamore Hills, Town & Country, Twin Oaks, University City, Uplands Park, Valley Park, Velda City, Velda Village Hills, Vinita Park, Vinita Terrace, Warson Woods, Webster Groves, Wellston, Westwood, Wilbur Park, Wildwood, Winchester, Woodson Terrace


Why of why do most/all these places need separate mayors, city councils, municipal administrators, fire, police, city services and on and on and on and on and on ??

It's all one big city, let's slash the fucking monstrous overhead of duplicative duplicated and redundantly redundant redundancies and focus on services for the people ?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Jesus Fucking Christ, is everybody fucking allergic to municipal consolidation ??
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
(February 10, 2016 at 5:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Here is a list of all the towns/cities/'burbs just in St. Loius County Missouri:

Affton, Ballwin, Bel-Nor, Bel-Ridge, Bella Villa, Bellefontaine Neighbors, Bellerive, Berkeley, Beverley Hills, Black Jack, Breckenridge Hills, Brentwood, Bridgeton, Calverton Park, Champ, Charlack, Chesterfield, Clarkson Valley, Clayton, Cool Valley, Country Club Hills, Crestwood, Country Life Acres, Creve Coeur, Crystal Lake Park, Dellwood, Des Peres, Edmundson, Ellisville, Eureka, Ferguson, Fenton, Flordell Hills, Florissant, Frontenac, Glen Echo Park, Glendale, Grantwood Village, Greendale, Green Park, Hanley Hills, Hazelwood, Hillsdale, Huntleigh, Kinloch, Kirkwood, Jennings, Ladue, Lakeshire, Mackenzie, Manchester, Maplewood, Marlborough, Maryland Heights, Mehlville, Moline Acres, Normandy, Northwoods, Norwood Court, Oakland, Olivette, Overland, Pacific, Pagedale, Pasadena Hills, Pasadena Park, Pine Lawn, Richmond Heights, Riverview, Rock Hill, St. Ann, St. John, Shrewsbury, Sunset Hills, Spanish Lake, Sycamore Hills, Town & Country, Twin Oaks, University City, Uplands Park, Valley Park, Velda City, Velda Village Hills, Vinita Park, Vinita Terrace, Warson Woods, Webster Groves, Wellston, Westwood, Wilbur Park, Wildwood, Winchester, Woodson Terrace


Why of why do most/all these places need separate mayors, city councils, municipal administrators, fire, police, city services and on and on and on and on and on ??

It's all one big city, let's slash the fucking monstrous overhead of duplicative duplicated and redundantly redundant redundancies and focus on services for the people ?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Jesus Fucking Christ, is everybody fucking allergic to municipal consolidation ??

Because that is how representative government works. As a population grows the representation and services have to grow with the population, and just like anti monopoly concepts it is not a good idea to have everything under one umbrella. Just like our government could not work if it only had the original 13 state representatives.

I'd be frightened of one big government to cover all this if it were GOP run. Look at what the GOP has done to Michigan and Detroit and Flint. That damage is not coming from the local level, it is coming from the state capital level and the federal level.

If you want something like that, fine, but it has to be under a balanced system and right now our GOP gerrymandered system is favoring the GOP nation wide.
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
(February 10, 2016 at 5:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Jesus Fucking Christ, is everybody fucking allergic to municipal consolidation ??

What, you want would-be tyrants to give up their fiefdoms?

Tongue
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
(February 10, 2016 at 4:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(February 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think cops should be able to make it home after their shifts in one piece.

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-dangerous-jobs/

So should everyone and cops are way down at 14th place among the most dangerous jobs in the country.

But there are real problems and pretending there is a War on Cops is not helping.

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/...-be-killed

Quote:American Cops are 300 Percent More Likely to Kill Themselves Than Be Killed by Someone Else

You have a war on cops going here.
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
I have lots of family in St. Louis City and St. Louis County. From what I understand, STL City has tried several times over the years to rejoin the county, but the county voters don't want that. I can't imagine single municipalities in the County merging would be any easier. The fire service has done OK with this. There are many Fire Protection Districts that cover multiple towns. Not sure about Police Districts. We had a few of those in PA.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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RE: The City of Ferguson Has Decided
I drive through Ferguson eight times a week, minimum. Never had any trouble.
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