Fuck Man....When GERMANY Accuses You of War Crimes

[The Valkyrie]

Fuck the war, it was a long time ago, get over it.

I'm assuming you're talking about WW2?

In that case: Yeah, fuck the war it was a long time ago.

And fuck the Holocaust. It was a long time ago, too. Fucking Jews whining about ancient history!

See where this goes?

There's an old saying about those who forget history . . .

[Violet]

There's an old saying about those who forget history . . .

They live their lives in peace while other people who have jobs that require its understanding keep them from having to know anything about it?

[Alex K]

There's an old saying about those who forget history . . .

They live their lives in peace while other people who have jobs that require its understanding keep them from having to know anything about it?

They get an F on the test?

[Violet]

They get an F on the test?

But their teachers pass them anyway, because they love that football team. 'Oinkers gonna go all the way this year! Oinkers all the way!'

[Minimalist]

The Times finally gets with the program.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/new-y...r-torture/

New York Times calls for Cheney, Bush officials to be investigated and prosecuted for torture

What about the fucking lawyers who said that torture wasn't "torture?" They belong in the cell next to Cheney.

[abaris]

What about the fucking lawyers who said that torture wasn't "torture?" They belong in the cell next to Cheney.

That's the indictment at the Nuremberg tribunal:

Crimes against Peace, War Crimes, and Crimes against Humanity, and of a Common Plan or Conspiracy to commit those Crimes

I think, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others fit the bill nicely What's more, the charta of the Nuremberg tribunals has never been revoked.

[Faith No More]

What about the fucking lawyers who said that torture wasn't "torture?" They belong in the cell next to Cheney.

They also need to get those asshole psychologists that were on the payroll to help develop the whole "enhanced interrogation" system.

[Minimalist]

Yes. Lots of Germans tried the "I was only following orders" defense. Didn't work out so well for them.

[Jenny A]

No, but I can tell you how to "kiss my ass" in English. This comes from a country who murdered millions of Jews in their own state sponsored death camps. Not too many atrocities from history compares to what Germany did....and the German people were apathetic to it.

Yep and and a nation that practiced slavery during 19th century when most of the civilized world had abandoned it and had it's own little genocide (called the American Indian Wars), and rounded up it's Japanese population into concentration camps during WWII (albeit not deadly ones, just financially ruinous and rather uncomfortable), was the principal party in the Nuremberg Trials. What goes around, comes around. If only innocent nations could try war crimes, war crime would never be tried.

[DeistPaladin]

The US has a bad track record of accepting that some of its past actions were crappy. I know people who still defend slavery.

From what I have been told, Germany has done a pretty good job of accepting its responsibility for what happened in WW2

This charge is not against the American people. It is against a specific administration that engaged in activities that it didn't openly share with the public. Cheney and the rest of his gang should stand trial but they won't.

In my fourth year of studying German in high school, we read German history books that detailed the rise of Nazism, how it happened, took an unflinching look at what happened and the terrible results for everyone in the world.

Germany has done an admirable job owning what happened. They've put us to shame considering we have yet to come to terms with our sins, including slavery, segregation and the genocide of Native Americans. Consider that there is only one nation I can think of that has used all three forms of WMD (chemical, biological and nuclear) not only in war but on civilian targets.

The one you want as a police detective is a truly repentant former criminal now working for law and order. Germany is not only qualified to lead the way on international law against crimes of war, aggression and against humanity, they are supremely qualified.

My deepest regret as an American is that clearly justice will have to be forced upon us. We don't seem to have the political will to do what is right and arrest these war criminals ourselves.

By the way, it can happen anywhere. Eternal vigilance is always required. The direction my country has taken in the last 12 years is unsettling in context to what I studied. I'm not saying we're about to open concentration camps tomorrow but we've unarguably taken some steps on the road to fascism.