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Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:33 pm
..[Noble Quran 24:40]
This verse mentions the darkness found in deep seas and oceans, where if a man stretches out his hand, he cannot see it. The darkness in deep seas and oceans is found around a depth of 200 meters and below. At this depth, there is almost no light. Below a depth of 1,000 meters there is no light at all[Oceans Elder and Pernetta p.27].
Human beings are not able to dive more than forty meters without the aid of submarines or special equipment. Human beings cannot survive unaided in the deep dark part of the oceans, such as at a depth of 200 meters.
Scientists have recently discovered this darkness by means of special equipment and submarines that have enabled them to dive into the depths of the oceans.
We can also understand from the following sentences in the previous verse, "..in a deep sea. It is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds,..." that the deep waters of seas and oceans are covered by waves, and above these waves are other waves.
It is clear that the second set of waves are the surface waves that we see, because the verse mentions that above the second waves there are clouds. But what about the first waves? Scientists have recently discovered that there are internal waves which "occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities."[Oceanography, Gross, p. 205].
The internal waves cover the deep waters of seas and oceans because the deep waters have a higher density than the waters above them. Internal waves act like surface waves. They can also break just like surface waves. Internal waves cannot be seen by the human eye, but they can be detected by studying temperature or salinity changes at a given location.
Water covers so much of the earth and even mixes with the land in rivers and streams. Yet is there something keeping it from mixing with itself? What is contained in this mystery of separation of waters?
The Quran on Seas and Rivers
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:37 pm
This is in 24, too.
Quote:The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
24.2
Fuck the koran.
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 6:45 pm by Lucanus.)
Do salty water and plain water mix? They do. Maybe not evidently, but they do.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm
And no one can answer B-)
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:46 pm
What do you think you are proving with that verse?
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Regarding the "dark deep" - anyone who's dove more than a couple of meters deep knows the deeper you go the darker it gets. It doesn't take a genius to extrapolate from there.
Regarding the visibility of differing layers of temperature and salinity - I beg to differ. You can see them if the conditions permit.
I know both of these facts this because I've seen it with my own eyes.
No revelation required.
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Praise Cthulhu
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 7:07 pm by Chad32.)
So it gets too dark to see when you dive deep enough, and there are underwater currents. These are things that anyone should be able to tell if they spend enough time around water. By the time you swim down forty meters, you should be able to tell that it's darker than the surface, and can make an educated guess that eventually it will get too dark to see anything eventually. Plus at forty feet below, people can still feel currents.
You don't have to be divinely inspired to figure this out. You just need to study the oceans a bit.
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 6:59 pm
Of course people can answer it, you lackwit. It isn't surprising or special knowledge that deep water is dark. The Quran gets a few things right, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Also, stop copying from other websites and passing it off as your own.
http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-f.htm
Reposting rubbish doesn't alter the fact that it is rubbish.
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RE: Deep Seas and Internal Waves
January 9, 2015 at 7:35 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 7:36 pm by Simon Moon.)
Finding passages in holy books, that can be made to retroactively sound like they made predictions of later scientific discoveries, is nonsense (and non-science, for that matter).
If your book was so miraculous in it's predictions, they would be known before the scientific discovery is made.
Please explain these passages:
Surah 67.5 - Allah made the stars as missiles to throw at devils.
Surah 18.66 - The sun sets in a muddy spring
Surah 24.43 - Hail comes from mountains.
These are just a few of the absurdities in the Q'ran.
Funny how when a Muslim tries to argue the scientific discoveries mentioned in the Quran, these (and many other equally ridiculous passages) get left out.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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