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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:04 pm
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(January 13, 2015 at 12:03 pm)LostLocke Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 11:55 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: This just in, from the random Depak Chopra quote generator: "The universe grows through species specific photons" Ooo, ooo... my turn:
"Infinity is the womb of positive destiny"
Isn't it though?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:07 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 12:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:03 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Ooo, ooo... my turn:
"Infinity is the womb of positive destiny"
Isn't it though? Errr.. yes?
Or... no?
Pass, pass! Next question......
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:11 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 11:05 am)Chili Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 9:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: The problem with "inductive reasoning" is that it's often a euphemism for made-up bullshit.
That is why neologic induction is not in the sandbox and is why God is always Formal first cause.
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You twats need to move beyond ancient philosophy. Aristotle is not the final word.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:12 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Chas Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 11:05 am)Chili Wrote: That is why neologic induction is not in the sandbox and is why God is always Formal first cause.
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You twats need to move beyond ancient philosophy. Aristotle is not the final word.
Come on, please say you're messing with us. You didn't really understand that load.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:24 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Chas Wrote: You twats need to move beyond ancient philosophy. Aristotle is not the final word.
Come on, please say you're messing with us. You didn't really understand that load.
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Nope, I didn't. 
In fact, I stopped reading at "Efficient Cause" because it's just regurgitating Aristotle's tired old shit.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm
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(January 13, 2015 at 12:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:03 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Ooo, ooo... my turn:
"Infinity is the womb of positive destiny"
Isn't it though?
That cannot be because infinity has no being to see.
Eternity does, and therefore is the continuity of infinity in us.
For eternity to be the seer must see the seer see and that will be via woman in us who, as the womb of man in which we are the fullness of who we think we are as outsider to her.
Remember here that woman was taken from man to leave her in the fullness of us and we are the one with the hole in our head.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm
I had to go to Wikipedia just to figure out what an "efficient cause is".
In the Four Causes section, I tried to read the 1st one, Material cause, and only got through:
"A change or movement's material cause is the aspect of the change or movement which is determined by the material which the moving or changing things..." and could only read it in Bill Cosby's voice at that point.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 12:33 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Chili Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: Isn't it though?
That cannot be because infinity has no being to see.
Eternity does, and therefore is the continuity of infinity in us.
For eternity to be the seer must see the seer see and that will be via woman in us who, as the womb of man in which we are the fullness of who we think we are as outsider to her. "Your consciousness is the foundation of a symbolic representation of belonging"
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm
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(January 13, 2015 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Chili Wrote: That cannot be because infinity has no being to see.
Eternity does, and therefore is the continuity of infinity in us.
For eternity to be the seer must see the seer see and that will be via woman in us who, as the womb of man in which we are the fullness of who we think we are as outsider to her. "Your consciousness is the foundation of a symbolic representation of belonging."
Yes, and beyond belonging is being, and beyond being is seeing the being see, and that is when you first know who you are as if only the bottom light in a Christmas tree seen.
It is from this point in life that the journey of life really begins with a star shining above to lead us on to the top. Just imagery, that's all.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 1:04 pm
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Kindly do not edit my quotes.
Thanks for fixing it.
(January 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm)Chili Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "Your consciousness is the foundation of a symbolic representation of belonging."
Yes, and beyond belonging is being, and beyond being is seeing the being see, and that is when you first know who you are as if only the bottom light in a Christmas tree seen.
It is from this point in life that the journey of life really begins with a star shining above to lead us on to the top. Just imagery, that's all.
Additionally, you do realize I'm using random, profound-sounding words smashed together in no particular order or structure, right? You're responding to gibberish. Which is convenient, because you're also responding with gibberish.
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