RE: What are your political views?
June 26, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2015 at 12:24 pm by das_atheist.)
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What are your political views?
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libertarian with a small "l". A liberal in the Jeffersonian sense I suppose.
Socially liberal, fiscally conservative and given the ample evidence in support of such a position, extremely skeptical of people in government's intentions and competency. Makes voting a rather pointless activity. Do I pick the right-wing religious idiot? Or the leftist, coercive, big government statist?
Capitalism is only useful because it allows us to trade resources and make some profit, but states need to put citizens above all profit (it's not what happens in practise). Individual rights are important but the collective and national security are fundamental rights as well to any concerned citizen. I don't think individual rights means you can simply endanger everyone else's safety because it's an exercise of freedom.
Free speech is good, but like any other right it's not absolute. I don't agree with the ridiculous idea that anything offensive is hate speech, but incitements to direct violence upon others and revolution, civil wars and riots should be prosecuted as forms of endangering public security - After all, who wants to live in such environment? Property is an important component of human societies - Whether it's really private property or just personal property as socialists propose (a less absolute form of property) it's indifferent to me. I think humans live to attached to their time's ideology and they forget we have worked societies with countless methods. Nothing guarantees me that in 100 years the predominant system will be liberalism (as it is now) and not a different one or a modified version of liberalism. I think the State is an institution and just not the government - That's just a part of what the State is - The State, unlike what libertarians think, is Us (the people, yay!), the territory, the culture, the language, bondings, all of it - It is a tool when used trough the government and serves economic, social and cultural purposes. The state should incentive and promote universal healthcare, education, access to culture and healthy environment, a decent housing, reduction of criminality, etc - No, the State doesn't suck at any of this, it's just that we care so much about fucking profits that private enterprises are more useful to corporate welfare when running these sectors. In many ways, the State should restrict the market whenever it is necessary to satisfy our most basic rights. Are private healthcare businesses too expensive and does that cause people to lack insurance? Fine, close most companies and monopolize healthcare. Problem solve - Don't give a fuck about the drawback, we can deal with it.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
(June 26, 2015 at 9:34 am)Stimbo Wrote: And is that a nuclear powered GMO? I don't know what exact abomination she is powered by. Probably something she cooked up in her years as a physicist...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
RE: What are your political views?
June 26, 2015 at 3:23 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2015 at 3:38 pm by Salacious B. Crumb.)
Because of the complexities of this issue, if you are still able to edit your OP, then you may want to edit this link in. Or, maybe you and others may want to give this a try. I think this is the best test that I’ve seen, because you are able to choose how much an issue matters to you, which I’d recommend anyone who tries this, to do just that.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/politic...-quiz.html It's 53 agree/disagree type of questions, and it takes about 5 minutes if you know where you stand on basic issues. I couldn't quite get the picture of my results to show up on here, but.. Compass: 5.4 Left, 5.34 Libertarian Foreign Policy: -8.88 (towards non-interventionalist) Culture: -8.43 (towards cultural liberal) I voted left, although it is a little more complicated than that, but these test results probably will help people understand more, especially if they take the test. I have gone all over the map from communism to different forms of socialism, but I feel what we have in this country is decent, although many improvements can be made. (Hybrid of capitalism and socialism).
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
I consider myself pan-political: I support the most effective political practice for a given scenario, irrespective of where it sits on the political swingometer. I'm an opponent of Party politics as I believe that just because one group 'gets it right/wrong' on one subject, or a group of subjects, it doesn't necessarily follow that they will do the same on other/all subjects. I'm quite utilitarian in that respect. That said, it's true, in the UK, that the most effective practices generally correspond with liberal or socialist perspectives; it's rare that I'll agree with a position on the right of the spectrum and even rarer that I'll agree with any extreme left/right position.
The 'austerity' politics of current right-wing UK administration make for a very effective illustration of my points.
Sum ergo sum
I used to be quite left wing in my teens, verging on socialist. Over the years my sympathy with things like environmentalism have waned (To the point that I can't stand the 'natural = good' argument) and I've got a mixture of views now.
I don't think left or right (applied dogmatically) are any use in deciding policy. They are both philosophies and I don't think you need any philosophy to make a policy, just a good balance between practicality and morality. Although maybe a sense of duty or love for your community or wider society would be useful.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. ~ George Bernard Shaw
I'm one of the two people to pick right wing apparently. I'm a libertarian/conservative but definitely not of the Ayn Rand or Ron Paul variety, where they tend to be moderate on social issues I tend towards moderation on economic issues but am an absolutist when it comes to social issues. Why then pick right wing out of the choices (and not the slightly pedantic other.) Well libertarian on social issues does not mean left-wing on social issues at all. For example on the gay marriage issue, a socially left person wants the state to sanction both gay and straight marriage, where as a libertarian would not want the state to be involved at all. The left wing social sphere is where hate speech laws came from, very different from the libertarian social view. People who think that libertarians are socially left and economically right just don't understand the very different approach. I think it's far more acurate to say that libertarians are socially to the right wing, or at the least their own thing.
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