RE: Cash for vasectomy....
October 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2010 at 7:14 pm by Autumnlicious.)
(October 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm)Existentialist Wrote:(October 19, 2010 at 6:19 pm)theVOID Wrote: Failing to use words as defined hinders communication.And I respect your right to hold this belief. However, I believe in the freedom of people to express their views in their own words. It's not as if either of us can ethically impose our beliefs on the other, is it?
Aka - I can redefine anything to what I want! Nya~Nya!
(October 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm)Existentialist Wrote:[/quote]Quote:If they volunteer for the procedure then there is no unethical conduct, you may be personally uncomfortable with it, but if all of the relevant parties are in agreement then it cannot possibly be unethical, it would only be the case if the men getting vasectomies are not aware of the procedure taking place or are mislead about the consequences.Agreement obtained as a result of a bribe is not genuine agreement.
So if a car dealer gave you a significant cash back for signing into an installment plan that you possibly can or cannot afford/want, is it bribery?
What about paying someone to live in a homeless shelter instead of being on the street? Is that bribery - after all, you are depriving them of their "right" in some way to be roaming about freely. Where does incentives stop and bribery begin?
Define that. Else, you're merely re-emitting the usual fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) commonly associated with political causes.
(October 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm)Existentialist Wrote:Quote:I could pay a physician to remove my testicleser...
Can we all chip in, obviously to "bribe" you?
Here is the definition of FUD before Existentialist redefines it:
Quote:Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric and fallacy used in sales, marketing, public relations,[1][2] politics, propaganda and trolling. FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative and dubious/false information designed to undermine the credibility of their beliefs. An individual firm, for example, might use FUD to invite unfavorable opinions and speculation about a competitor's product; to increase the general estimation of switching costs among current customers; or to maintain leverage over a current business partner who could potentially become a rival.
FUD techniques may be crude and simple, as in claiming "I read a paper by a Harvard professor that shows you are wrong regarding subject XXX", but the paper does not exist. (Were the paper to exist then it would not be FUD but valid criticism.) Alternatively FUD may be very subtle, employing an indirect approach. Someone who employs FUD cannot generally back up their claims (e.g., "I don't recall which professor or which year the paper is from"). To dispel FUD, the easiest way is to ask for details and then provide well researched hard facts which disprove them. For instance, if it can be shown that no Harvard professor has ever written a paper on subject XXX, then the FUD is dispelled.