(July 23, 2015 at 8:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: Here again I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding my question or I'm misunderstanding your response. Would grass, for example - to you, qualify as strong ai?
We're getting into the murky problem of trying to create a definition for a spectrum of emergent phenomena. Such questions are typical, like what is life for example. Is a seed alive? I would say grass not intelligent for several reasons, others may disagree. I am working on a formal definition of intelligence that would exclude it but I am not going to jump off into these murky depths in this thread considering how badly we seem able to communicate with each other.
(July 23, 2015 at 8:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: In your example of the rat, I'm not sure why you would rescind your designation of intelligence in the event that some outside agent was stimulating it's pleasure centers.
Let's think about a classical neural network, a back-propagation network. You need to look at the outputs and then go through the network changing the weights yourself. Neither myself or anyone in the field would call this self organisation. The network is being changed by a third party. The same with the rat brain. A self organising system settles into a stable, or meta-stable state by itself.
