(July 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I know that you understand which definition of the word prediction I used in my statement. I suppose these childish antics and rants are to be expected from a couple of loser bookends like you and your attorney-impersonating buddy.
I believe the point Ace was making is the fact that your prediction happened to be right is mere coincidence. For what it is worth my uncle who did not graduate from elementary school and has no idea how the law works predicted same sex marriage would turn out this way because, "The queers have Hollywood and people are such sheep they let others who fake shit for a living decide for them". He predicted the outcome based on a line of reasoning. Does that mean he has a better understanding of Hollywood and social dynamics of sheeple?
I think there is a term for this which I am sure someone may help me out with. What is it called when you have an idea of how something is going to turn out (say your grandmother dying) and then the event occurs (she dies) which leads you to believe you had knowledge before the fact allowing you to predict the outcome, while ignoring all the other times that prediction was wrong?
I confess I do not expect one who did not even know how the constitutional amendments which granted her entire race of people freedom, citizenship, and rights require State ratification to be well versed in legal knowledge or to have studied constitutional law. I am confident I have exhibited sufficient knowledge of law to show I have studied it. Now you may not believe such (shocker!! An atheist that does not believe), but as I have written in many times by now... Your belief (or mine for that matter) does not define the reality of the situation. So I suggest you study the law or at minimum stay of any legal forums or message boards lest you remove doubt of your legal ignorance.
(July 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Thena323 Wrote: It's apparent you both harbor religious and/or personal objections to same-sex marriage that you relentlessly try present as a legitimate legal arguments. Both you and Anime appear to be highly offended that the majority of Americans do not share your view, and you both are seemingly sick with rage in regards to the Supreme Court ruling.
Why is that? Because you honestly believe that every American should be subjected to the laws of your particular God? Or do you think that US citizens should be denied basic rights simply because you think being gay is gross and icky? Why can't you understand that no one gives a shit about your nonsense religious beliefs or what personally disgusts you?
I may not speak for Ace. But you are correct in that I have objections. You are also correct in that some of those objections are theological. You are mistaken in believing my objections are solely theological as I also have biological, sociological, and teleological objections. To date I have not discussed my theological objections in the slightest, but have sought answers in regards to the biological, sociological, and teleological objections. I have yet to receive any logical response to them which are not fallacies of false equivalency, appeals to novelty, appeals to pity, or appeals to popularity.
For you to argue the majority of Americans do not share my view is rather hilarious. As the majority of Americans do not share your atheist view. So if I am wrong in being opposed to homosexuality because the majority is not are you wrong in being opposed to Christianity when the majority of Americans are not? Or may we say there is a reason for your objections which you perceive as valid in those objections? (Please refrain from the reflexive response of religion is imaginary bullshit because the same reflexive response may be returned to you in kind.)
As I said. You are right that I have objections to the adoption of an argument which results in a metaphysical and physical harm to people and society as a whole that is entirely based upon fallacious arguments. Call me crazy, but I think there should be some valid reason for changing things. I hoped various persons here could provide a valid reason. I have yet to receive a single argument in their favor that is not predicated on a fallacy. Instead I have received numerous ad hominem attacks to which I respond a la Shylock, "Until you can rail the seal from off my bond you do but offend your lungs to speak thus."
(July 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Why is that? Because you honestly believe that every American should be subjected to the laws of your particular God? Or do you think that US citizens should be denied basic rights simply because you think being gay is gross and icky? Why can't you understand that no one gives a shit about your nonsense religious beliefs or what personally disgusts you?
Those are all rhetorical questions by the way, because there's no point in going back and forth about this. Same-sex marriage is a done deal and there's not a goddamn thing bigoted assholes can do about it. And that's a reason to smile!![]()
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It is because I think Laws should be determined free from passion and in accordance with reason that best serves the majority of the population. To do otherwise is to subject the laws of the nation to the whims of some small minority. You know the single religious nut on the corner who is being oppressed because society is not recognizing the truth of what he has to say.
Does everyone honestly believe it is a done deal? Do each of you honestly think that every one who disagrees is first a bigot and second even if only bigots has no recourse but to submit? In a nation with state mottos such a free or die you believe that? Hmm... Ok.